A German politician has been filmed taking large sums of cash from a Kremlin-supporting broadcaster, Czech intelligence has claimed.

Petr Bystron, who is standing for Alternative for Germany (AfD) at European parliamentary elections in June, allegedly received €20,000 (£17,000) in cash from the manager of a Russian propaganda network while sitting in a parked car, recordings indicate.

Mr Bystron, who also sits on the Bundestag’s foreign affairs committee, has previously denied allegations of taking Russian money as a “defamation campaign”.

The Security Information Service (BIS), the Czech Republic’s domestic intelligence agency, now says Mr Bystron met with Artem Marchevsky, who allegedly managed a Kremlin-backed propaganda front called Voice of Europe, at least three times in the past six months.

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      If your blackmailing someone forcing them to take cash from you can them be used to blackmail the person further. They can press on them more, because they are now collaborators and won’t get any symphony from the public or a jury.

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        To be fair, I doubt the public would give them a symphony either way. Seems like it’d be expensive and require a lot of training.

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        Very likely this. Transfers above a certain threshold are automatically looked into to prevent money laundering, so getting a big bunch of cash at once is less convenient than getting several, smaller payments.

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            I would think so, yeah. Purchases of over 10,000€ are automatically put under investigation, so a larger bribe would be tedious to launder. I’m not a money laundering expert tho, so I don’t know how they do it. That’s just how I would prefer to be bribed, I guess lol

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              In this case it was €20k in cash. Other ways is 'after dinner" speaking fees.

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      Small enough to not get noticed, too little to cover their lifestyle for long, yet too convenient to not take :)

      The big paydays usually happen through companies the politician and his ilk are in the board of, which just score very lucrative contracts or orders time after time. Or the politician is hired as a consultant for such companies, collecting fabulous kickbacks. Or the promise of early retirement into “window-looking jobs,” employment where they have a title, high income and zero responsibilities.

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      Of course fucking of course, I wasn’t askin’ I was tellin’

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    How surprising… not. Here in hungary also the state party (fidesz) and their puppet party “mi hazánk” is controlled by putin

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      It’s crazy how little it takes to buy these fucks off. Like setup and GoFundMe and just bring out the bribes into the open at this point

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        This is AfD, our resident fascist clown party. At least we have a coalition based democracy, so it’s unlikely that they take over the less fascist “center”-right party.

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          The CxU (among others) is working on making those clowns a viable coalition partner by taking them seriously and talking to them on TV. Maybe that’s not their intention, but it will be the result if it continues.

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            Definitely. Who ever trusts conservatives to stick to their word about not doing a coalition with fascists?

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      Financing your friends and bankrupting your enemies is a strategy western nations perfected during the Cold War and employed to brutal effect in the immediate aftermath of the dissolution of the USSR.

      But its not a trick that’s unique to western intelligence. Chinese officially had effectively bought out Hong Kong long before it transitioned into Beijing’s control. Singapore, Myanmar, Vietnam, and the better part of the African eastern seaboard are undergoing a similar conversion as Chinese exports ramp up.

      Russia’s economic influence over Ukraine was a big part of what triggered the civil war in 2014 and the Crimea takeover that same year. The Russian government has succeeded in quelling revolts in Chechnya with investment dollars in a way they never managed with military forces. They’ve got friends in Italy, Greece, and France as well as Germany, thanks in no small part with the open purse of Russian lobbyists and intelligence groups.

      The whole BRICS coalition is about coordinating financial flow through these high population third-world states operating slightly outside the western periphery. Its been happening since 2008, when the western operated international financial system faulted. Every country with the means and the leadership has been building up parallel institutions, in order to buffer themselves against the next big Wall Street / London financial crash.

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      Yep. Push and pull.

      Saber rattling from the outside, paid-off politicians on the inside. In the short term, pushes policies towards groveling before Russian aggression, in the long term, establishes precedence and shifts the general accepted attitude to dealing with their pressure.

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    Bro hadn’t heard of Monero.

    Seriously though, those Czechs are pretty keen on taking care of shit atm.

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      The AfD isnt conservative. They are facist to neo nazi.

      Bernd Höcke is best friends with nazis and is allowed to be called a facist

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          Oh no no no! There is a huge difference between facism and national socialism!! I am german i know a thing or too! National socialism is based in extermination, facism isnt!

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            National socialism is a misnomer. The Nazis were not socialistic at all, in fact socialists were one of the first groups to be detained and/or executed as political enemies. They were pretty much just fascists with some nationalistic ideas.

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              The idiologie is called national socialism because their party was the Nationalsozialistische Arbeiter Partei NSDAP. Nazi is just short for Nationalsozialist (in english national socialist)

              Ofc just because their name had socialist in the name doesnt mean they were socialists! Dont try to explain the nazis and what they did to a german.

              You on the otherhand, seem to not grasp the difference between, nationalism, facism and national socialism. So here for you the difference: Nationalism: the belief of once nation/culture to be above and better than everyone else

              Facism: same as nationalism just way more militaristic and beliefing in “the weak shall make way for the strong for they rule the world”

              National socialism: all other cultures and nations should be eradicated. Belief and loyalty is the strong leader and nothing else

              Every idiologie can be added with antisemitism anti christianism or any other hatret against religion

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                Alter, komm mal von deinem hohen Ross runter. Du bist nicht der einzige Deutsche hier und Deutscher zu sein macht dich nicht zu einer Koryphäe in Sachen politischer Ideologien nur weil du in der Schule eine 1 in Geschichte geschrieben hast. Schau mal lieber die Definitionen von Faschismus und Nationalismus nach bevor du hier deine Mentalgymnastik ablässt, denn das, was du geschrieben hast ist nicht richtig.

                Nationalsozialisten waren einfach nur Faschisten mit der Idee von Großdeutschland (einer ultranationalistischen Idee, kongruent mit faschistischer Ideologie). Mit Sozialismus hatte die ganze Sache rein gar nix zu tun und zwar nicht im Geringsten.

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      That I’d be OK with. Or just pocketing the cash and telling their own agents who’s bribing and how.

      But this twat might be dumb enough to actually do some dumb shit in return.
      Also 20k, are the Russians that broke? The dude so insignificant? Or this just the tip of the money pile?

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      A noble thing if you could pull it off.

      But stay away from windows for the rest of your life and always prepare your own tea.

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    So, in Germany, does anything happen to this Russia war enabler? Or is it like America where someone just screams “both sides” and “but his tan suit” and all courts and laws get disabled?

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      My guess is if this blows up enough and the far right can’t simply deny that it happened any more they will distance themselves a bit, perhaps throw him out.

      Its just lip service though, the party is in large parts propped up by russia, and the members are all either corrupt shitstains doing the same as the guy who got caught or brainwashed idiots who themselves are the best argument against democracy and equal voices for everyone.

      The same playbook as your Republicans

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      We call them “exceptions” here, they’ll kick him out and say everyone else of the AfD is not like that. People will believe it and keep voting for them even harder because now. It’s a shit show.

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      Well, his party is trying to make people forget he’s in there for fear of losing votes. Given that this party is the “presentable” face of the hard right I hope he gets as much media attention as possible.

      Not sure anything is going to happen to him personally but he’s a politician and this is corruption so probably not.

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      My logic says yes but mostly it’s gonna be PR issues. But reality says there won’t be any other consequences because politicians don’t like to oust other politicians and courts don’t wanna get involved with separation of power issues.

      So no but yes but no.

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    Are you seriously saying that the guy who was in contact with a Russian propaganda outlet was involving with Russia?

    I’m shocked. Shocked I tell you!

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        The thing is, it was already known they were in contact and the politician in question claimed he did nothing sketchy. So he’s not only corrupt, or a traitor to our country, or (most likely) both, he also already publicly lied about it and there is supposedly evidence he actually accepted money. This makes things much worse for him.

        His party also already claimed it’s a smear campaign, so if there really is evidence, they’ll look pretty stupid as well (although this really isn’t news).

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          But this isn’t about a new case, it’s literally about the same thing. Your initial comment simply does not make sense.

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    Before Ukraine Russia funded right-wingers because they were anti-EU. Some of them were quite open about it. I don’t think anything has changed. Money just takes a longer route and people keep quiet about it.

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    So BIS/Czechia need to release the video to the public, not just claim they have it.

    I hope there will be plenty more information on these nazis coming out before the elections.

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    Can we finally ban this anti-democratic, Russian-psyops-spreading POS of a political Party? I fucking hate the AFD with a burning passion you can’t imagine. Everyone who votes for these fuckers just need to fucking cope that the war is over. Democratic Germany best Germany! Get rekt fascist keks.

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      I agree with the sentiment, but objectively democracy is a terrible form of government. We just haven’t come up with anything better, and the other options are even worse.

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        The problem with democracy is that to really work it requires an informed electorate, and a lot of the information the electorate get is propaganda. But like you say, I don’t have a better alternative to offer.

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          Pretty much this. The average voter is by all objective measures not qualified to decide on political matters, its just that not having every mouthbreather have a voice has always led to autocracy in every single attempt made.

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          Let’s genetically engineer Renaissance style perfect humanist dictators.

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      Democratic Germany best Germany!

      While I agree on the AfD sentiment, we’re not exactly living in a democracy. When money/corporations have way more influence on politics than voters, that’s not even remotely resembling democracy.

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        A flawed democracy is still a democracy - and Germany is widely regarded, despite some corruption, as one of the best-functioning democracies in the world (5th best according to the Democracy Matrix - which is admittedly from a German university - and 12th best according to the Economist’s Democracy Index). There are no serious scholars doubting this.

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          Democracy assessments / studies / rankings are heavily flawed. They tend to look at freedom of speech, corruption & integrity of elections, while completely disregarding “legal” corruption such as lobbying, and how much influence money has on the legal process. Which is exactly what I criticized. Germany is not a democracy. It has freedom of speech, and low corruption, and relatively fair elections. However, there is a severe imbalance towards lobbyists and big corporations in the legislation.

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            Democracy Matrix doesn’t disregard “legal corruption”:

            https://www.democracymatrix.com/fileadmin/_processed_/a/0/csm_RegulationIntermediate_Equality_1f52ae705f.png

            Neither does the Democracy Index, which has “political participation” as a criteria.

            You can’t just make up your own definitions. Democracy is a well-defined term. There being an imbalance just like in every society doesn’t make a country not a democracy. That’s not how this works.

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              Democracy Matrix doesn’t disregard “legal corruption”:

              Then the index is just plain biased.

              I live in Germany and I can see with my own eyes and hear with my own ears that the power balance is heavily tilted in favor of corporations. You may be one of those who either benefit from the system, or tell themselves a fairy tale of “things are not that bad”. I don’t need to wait for people starving on the streets to know that this is the direction our system is going at the moment.

              Germany is fucked up, but since we’re still exploiting the third world and our economy is booming, even those who get cheated out of their livelihoods do not starve yet (for the most part).

              But there are already some people in a really bad place here because the government isn’t doing the very minimum of it’s fucking duty to protect the weakest, and instead giving tax cuts to the richest and the corporations.

              So don’t give me bullshit about Germany being a “good democracy”. The only thing poor people still have left here, is that they are still allowed to call out those stealing their livelihood without being imprisoned for it. Not that it would do them any good.