• katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    8 months ago

    sorry but that’s just being assholes for the sake of being assholes what are you going to accomplish my ruining your classmates big day

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      8 months ago

      Now imagine if the IDF had shown up and murdered a bunch of people at the graduation ceremony.

      What scale of asshole would that be?

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        8 months ago

        Imagine if Hamas stormed a festival and executed 1200 people for shits and giggles. Now that would be some assholery.

        Lucky for us Hamas is a wholesome book club.

        Stupid rhetoric.

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          8 months ago

          If we’re going to get the analogy correct, you’re right, Hamas would be the assholes that killed 1200 people at a festival, and then IDF/Israel killed 34,000+, 70% women and children, in response.

          Seems like a balanced response from a country which you’d expect to desire the respect of other first world countries?

          Oh wait. That’s not an analogy.

          Let’s see what happens next? Spoiler! Israel annexes more Palestinian land for illegal settlements!

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            8 months ago

            I’m not defending the actions of the Israeli army. They are doing some bad stuff.

            But everyone supporting Palestine as a state should have a week with Hamas at work. Hamas is the government of Palestine. The civilian population of Palestine are getting shafted because the Palestinian government are using them as shield.

            If Palestine sent it’s army. Read Hamas to fight in the field Israel wouldn’t have any excuse to do a ground invasion in urban environments.

            Meanwhile the head of Hamas sits safe in Kuwait sipping champagne.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      what are you going to accomplish my ruining your classmates big day

      At a guess… divestment from their university’s investments in companies that profit from Israeli genocide? You know, the thing they say they want to accomplish?

          • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            8 months ago

            protesting on public areas or on the lawns is fine as long as they’re not disrupting students, making students uncomfortable, chanting antisemitic slogans, or causing classes to be disrupted.

            the protests at rutgers and brown did that just fine

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              You didn’t answer my question unless you think protesting on public areas on lawns in a way that doesn’t disrupt students, make students feel uncomfortable or causing classes to be disrupted will achieve their goals. Will it?

              As far as chanting antisemitic slogans, very little of that has been going on. As a Jew, I’m pretty damn sensitive to antisemitism and I’ve been paying close attention to these protests. Criticism of Israel is not antisemitism.

              • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                You didn’t answer my question unless you think protesting on public areas on lawns in a way that doesn’t disrupt students, make students feel uncomfortable or causing classes to be disrupted will achieve their goals. Will it?

                the protests at rutgers and brown did that.

                but they also realise that the school is not obligated to listen or grant 100% of their demands

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                  Rutgers and Brown are left-wing progressive schools. The University of Mississippi is not.

                  And even left-wing Columbia University was a segregated school until students occupied the same building they recently occupied and their demands were met.

                  Your idea that peaceful, respectful protest always gets people what they want is not borne out by history. If it were, SCOTUS would not have struck down Roe v. Wade.

              • Armok: God of Blood@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                If they want to achieve goals against the university administration, they should protest in a way that disrupts the administration, not the students.

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                  Like occupying the administration building? Because that’s exactly what Columbia students did. Didn’t seem to achieve their goals. It did get them a bunch of violent police reprisals though.

  • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    The good news is that like 5 years after college no one gives a shit about commencement or, for that matter, where you went to college. The most popular commencement speaker when I was finishing college was Bill Cosby.