• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
    204·
    8 months ago

    men under 30 who report zero female sex partners since turning 18

    Okay, but what about male partners?

    Also, can we clarify whether we’re defining “sex” as “sexual contact” versus “penial vaginal intercourse”? Because I think ex-President Clinton is still a virgin under the second definition.

  • ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
    642·
    8 months ago

    “Young male virgins” equals “men under age 30 who report zero female sex partners since they turned 18”?

    Good thing no male has sex before 18 or with anyone who isn’t female.

    • Zetta@mander.xyz
      10·
      8 months ago

      Right, like what’s the point in excluding this data? I guess it’s probably safe to assume if you had sex under 18 you probably have had sex after 18 but still odd that it’s like that.

      • Fosheze@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        8 months ago

        I’m willing to bet that they just didn’t want the legal hastle of collecting data on minors. Also minors are going to be more likely to lie about any potential sexual history.

        As far a why they excluded man on man action I have no idea. If the origional graph was in an article about declining birth rates or something then that may explain it but idk what the original article was so idk if that is the case.

  • Fosheze@lemmy.worldEnglish
    93·
    8 months ago

    Even in the late 1900s that number is still way higher than I thought it would be.

    • cerothem@lemmy.caEnglish
      19·
      8 months ago

      If your friend can hold it for 2 more years then they can get a movie made about them.

  • Acinonyx@lemmy.sdf.org
    915·
    8 months ago

    I’d not surprised if women had a much lower percentage

    edit:

    TRIGGER WARNING: this image contains scientifically correct data, which might cause some of you discomfort

        • Wogi@lemmy.world
          82·
          8 months ago

          You literally are.

          The study’s findings regarding sexual frequency declines among adolescents are particularly notable, according to Herbenick. The proportion of adolescents reporting neither solo masturbation nor partnered sexual behavior increased from 28% of young men and 49% of young women in 2009 to 43% of young men and 74% of young women in 2018.

          • Acinonyx@lemmy.sdf.org
            32·
            8 months ago

            the study in OPs post is about the percentage of men with no sex between 18 and 30. your study is about sex AND masturbation for ADOLESCENTS. you realize those are two different things, right?

            anyways, here’s the graph completing OPs image (and proving me right)

          • Aggravationstation@feddit.uk
            2·
            8 months ago

            The proportion of adolescents reporting neither solo masturbation nor partnered sexual behavior

            Wow. I didn’t lose my virginity til I was 18 but for about 5 years before that I whacked it all the damn time. Was I just super horny as a youngun or are teen libidos going down?

            • kiagam@lemmy.world
              31·
              8 months ago

              aside from the social reasons, there is a general decline in testosterone over time in the population, probably due to estrogen-like compounds from plastic. So yeah, people are less horny. Doesn’t mean they are not horny, just less.

              • SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                2·
                8 months ago

                Don’t forget other factors, like stress, poor diet, reduced physical activity, and obesity. At least in the United States, all of these things are worse than ever.

        • Nom Nom@lemm.eeEnglish
          0·
          8 months ago

          The OP is a joke post, you don’t have to try so hard to prove your point since the OP is not even trying to be consistent.

      • zaphod@sopuli.xyz
        4·
        8 months ago

        It would mean that there’s a subgroup of men that had more sexual partners than the average in the given timeframe.

  • nifty@lemmy.world
    5910·
    8 months ago

    That’s when social media started earnestly taking a foothold. I am guessing maybe this has to do with depressed females (there are studies which indicate social media use affects females more and also depresses them). Depressed females likely have different preferences and standards than those who are not, perhaps. If you don’t like yourself, you’re unlikely to pursue and welcome relationships.

    Alternatively, that was the time of the Great Recession. Perhaps some young adults in general are too economically stressed to do normal activities?

    • Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      73·
      8 months ago

      I’m trying to understand your post. Do you mean that the number of young men who are virgins has risen because women are depressed, thus implying that all of these young men are involuntarily celebite?

      • nifty@lemmy.world
        113·
        8 months ago

        Not all, it’s hard to say

        Note that I am not “blaming” women for the lack of sex these men are getting. I am saying that if you’re comparing yourself to the best female in your group and her outcomes, then you’re constantly going to feel like you’re not doing good enough for yourself. You’re going to get depressed, but that doesn’t necessarily mean you’re not coupling. But you’re restricting yourself and constraining your choices.

        It’s an untested hypothesis, but here’s some prelim evidence: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/08/20/key-takeaways-on-americans-views-of-and-experiences-with-dating-and-relationships/

        More women say dating is emotionally and physically risky now. What’s changed necessarily? I don’t know, I think it’s the hyper awareness induced by social media and also the increased economic pressures.

        • Siegfried@lemmy.world
          24·
          8 months ago

          My hypothesis is that mankind unconciously sorted out that earth its not gonna hold much longer with the size of our population and decided to apply the sex breaks.

          Whatever the cause is, it’s good to know that our best scientists are doing their best to make a better world both developing AIs and robots. Sex robots are on the next corner. And luckly, microplastics are making us dumber, so we will have a higher and faster acceptance of them too.

    • EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      171·
      8 months ago

      Also, social media is a major contributor to the isolation epidemic going on, as is the economic situation and the work culture of countries like the US.

      So what I’m saying is, you’re probably right on all accounts.

      I saw a great video once that went into how the economic situation is largely responsible for the cultural shift from “adult” as a thing you are to “adulting” - a thing you do. That from Millenials onwards, generations don’t feel economically secure enough to partake in traditional cultural norms of middle-class adulthood. Things like buying a house and popping out 2.5 kids.

    • voxel@sopuli.xyz
      3712·
      8 months ago

      ugh i hate the word “females”. why not just say “women”

  • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee
    131·
    8 months ago

    I mean, I guess millennials were right in the middle period between having a healthy sex life prior to 18 and then various life clusterfucks hit the generation. I can only assume ppl gave up, secluded, moisturised, in their lane, flourishing in their shituation as best they can.

  • Stovetop@lemmy.world
    1251·
    8 months ago

    2008 was the beginning of the recession, and in many ways things never really recovered. Cost of college never went down. Housing remains unattainable for most young people. And the job market is becoming more exploitative than ever.

    Financial uncertainty creates anxiety. People with too much anxiety don’t have the time or energy for relationships and family. As it happens, countries where this is felt even more, like Korea and Japan, have it far worse.