An unprecedented nearly 5,000 migrants have died at sea in the first five months of 2024 trying to reach the Spanish Canary Islands, according to a report released by migration rights group Walking Borders on Wednesday.

Between Jan. 1 and May 31, 4,808 people died on the Atlantic voyage to the Canaries after departing from Morocco, Mauritania, Senegal and Gambia, making it the deadliest route between Africa and Spain, with 95% of migrant deaths, according to the group.

Arrivals to the archipelago in that period soared five times to over 16,500 from a year ago, Interior Ministry data showed.

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    They all need to be sent back. If they have no reason for coming over they won’t bother and none of them will die.

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      They’re coming over because the people around them are dying.

      Do you really think they’d risk their lives like this for anything less?

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        There are plenty of first hand videos of people talking to people making dangerous crossing and they are doing to because they think they can get money in the new country.

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            It’s quite frequently on the TV.

            I’m not saying people aren’t displaced around the world. Europe for example has a lot of Ukrainian refugees that should be taken in, legally.

            A lot of the illegal migration is for money. If they got sent straight back they would have no reason to make the journey and they wouldn’t be at risk of drowning.

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              I have not seen the TV you have seen. If there are “plenty of first hand videos,” you can provide one.

              A lot of the illegal migration is for money.

              Yes, I know this is your claim. Feel free to provide actual evidence for it beyond telling me that anecdotal videos exist but only on TV shows I haven’t seen at your leisure.

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                Nah you spend enough time on the internet go look. I don’t have every TV show I ever watched recorded and categorised. I doubt anything I show you will change your mind so why bother? Economic gain is clearly a documented reason. People burning their passport is clearly documented. All these young men coming over must be so much more desperate than everyone else right? Otherwise why would it be just them? If you are open to your pre conceived notions being wrong go look, if you are going to keep them anyway no point me wasting my time.

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                  That’s not how it works. It’s not my job to prove you aren’t lying.

                  Economic gain is clearly a documented reason.

                  Then you can show this clear documentation. Again, it’s not my job to prove you aren’t lying.

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                I’ve watched YouTubers who film and interview for example the u.s. southern border migrants the vast majority like 95% will say they cross for money and opportunity, occasionally they’ll say because political persecution or communism or civil war or whatever. They never look malnourished or anything. The article you linked to says 120 million are displaced but links about 15 million to war. Which you claim they are migrating because people around them are dying which isn’t too true. So this brings us to our next problem. Should they stay in their own country and fight their own damn problems? Should another country do it for sudan? Should the u.s. arm a stabilizing militia in sudan and aid them in the liberation with thousand pound freedom bombs? If migration is such a problem?

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                  For one, that is totally anecdotal. YouTubers can interview whoever they want and edit and present those interviews however they want.

                  Secondly, displacement is always a life-or-death matter. Do you think being homeless in a rich country like America is easily survivable? Now imagine it in an African country.

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    Climate change driving entire populations to migrate is going to prove disastrous over our lifetime. Already we’re seeing voters turn to the far-right in response to rising immigration rates, and I fear it will get worse before it gets better. It’s real easy for bad faith politicians to take all the legitimate grievances of the working class, and then blame it all on migrants. We’ve seen it time and again in the United States, and no matter how often they do it, they still find traction among their voter base.

    Just gonna put this here: Immigrants Make Economies More Dynamic, Increase Employment Growth

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        Senegalese refugees comprise the bulk of the migrants, and all sorts of things like drought and commodity prices (due to the invasion Ukraine among other things) are driving their economy into the ground. In the end, climate change is definitely a non negligible component of the problem which is only going to get worse.

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      11 years old at this point

      https://youtu.be/RK5l_0bm6ko

      It’s gonna get real scary. Military is watching climate change like a hawk. It’s real and what you said is going to lead to insane destabilizing factors we aren’t prepared for.