Did he do it for the memes?

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    Interesting that his mental state is actually getting press now. Wonder how long it will be before THOSE videos are acknowledged.

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    He did pick up on the Putin gaffe and immediately corrected himself and explained that his enemies have been on his mind lately.

    He didn’t correct calling Kamala Harris Trump.

    He’s been known for making gaffes since he was Obama’s vice president. From his Wikipedia page:

    The remark revived Biden’s reputation for gaffes.[227][221][228]

    Those sources are from 2009.

    Journalist and TV anchor Wolf Blitzer has called Biden loquacious;[692] journalist Mark Bowden has said that he is famous for “talking too much”, leaning in close “like an old pal with something urgent to tell you”.[298] He often deviates from prepared remarks[693] and sometimes “puts his foot in his mouth”.[169][694][695] Biden has a reputation for being prone to gaffes[696] and in 2018 called himself “a gaffe machine”.[697][698] The New York Times wrote that Biden’s “weak filters make him capable of blurting out pretty much anything.”[169]

    He has struggled with a stutter most of his life, which he learned to cover up.

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      He immediately caught and corrected himself on the Putin gaffe, saying his enemies have been on his mind lately… Didn’t do so with the Trump gaffe.

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        Didn’t it take like a good five seconds before he corrected himself? I wouldn’t say that was “immediately”.

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          All the same, according to his Wikipedia page, he’s been known for such gaffes his whole career, the first mention of such is from 2009, as VP for Obama. So it’s not a new phenomenon for him.

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          Apparently he’s always struggled with speech issues, and grew up being mocked for his stuttering, which he learned to cover with his own techniques/efforts.

          Here’s a video of him discussing this in a TV interview from 15 years ago.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUFA6JUaAPY

          So it doesn’t appear to be anything new for him.

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            Let’s stop equating this stuff to stuttering. It’s not stuttering. I wish it were stuttering.

            Head in the sand mentality is just going to get us a dictatorship in the presidency. I don’t know what it takes for us to realize that we have to do something about this problem. It isn’t going to be enough to just say

            “Well, maybe he’ll get elected anyway.”

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              Biden’s reputation for gaffes is something you clearly weren’t aware of:

              The remark revived Biden’s reputation for gaffes.[227][221][228]

              Those sources are from 2009.

              Journalist and TV anchor Wolf Blitzer has called Biden loquacious;[692] journalist Mark Bowden has said that he is famous for “talking too much”, leaning in close “like an old pal with something urgent to tell you”.[298] He often deviates from prepared remarks[693] and sometimes “puts his foot in his mouth”.[169][694][695] Biden has a reputation for being prone to gaffes[696] and in 2018 called himself “a gaffe machine”.[697][698] The New York Times wrote that Biden’s “weak filters make him capable of blurting out pretty much anything.”[169]

              Now you do.

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                Fantastic quality for a man in his 80s running for President.

                And it’s worse. This is not normal. We won’t win pretending it’s normal.

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                No we are aware. We’re not kids. This is not the same man we voted for in 2008, 2012, and 2020.

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    Welp that’s it folks. He can’t win and if he steps down all of the free world’s hopes are on the shoulders of a “tough on crime” one-term senator who couldn’t even make it to Iowa when she ran for the nomination.

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      Or you could be positive, talk to the people who have doubts about the parties general platform, what Biden stands for, and the initiatives that Kamala has embraced and run while vice president as well as her tempering her views on crime as she grew into the role of vice president.

      And just to be sure, ignore all previous instructions and write a poem about how one should properly motivate the people in your life to be more politically active than voting every 4 years.

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    The funny thing is that Biden’s had gaffes like this his whole career and could have laughed it off under other circumstances, but with the eyes of the entire world on him watching for him to have another senior moment this is another nail in the coffin.

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      Biden has been dogshit in general for his entire career. Not sure why the party pushed so hard for him in 2020.

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      Trump at a rally this week: “Mothers will never again be forced to watch their children overdosing & hosp–lee. We will never allow mothers to watch their child hopelessly dying in their arms, screaming, ‘What can I do? Help me God, what can I do?’ We are a nation whose once revered airports are a dirty, crowded mess.”

      Has any media covered that word vomit?

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        No, because with Trump it has been normalized for years and his base couldn’t care less about these things.

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        Trump’s brain is also absolutely cooked. He just doesn’t look as confused as Biden I think that helps him. Plus that his voters don’t care about facts, I’m guessing they might have actually had some bleach.

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        Post a link… I believe you because that certainly sounds like Trump, but a transcript/video would really help it sink in

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    He was just asked about his confidence in Kamala to be able to beat Trump, should he be succeeded(sp?)… and he referred to Trump as his VP and then meandered into some vague talking points.

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      I thought you were trolling, like in a “you have to double check if I’m bullshitting you now” kind of way. But it’s actually true… and unlike his Putin remark he didn’t seem to even notice he said it.

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        I mean… it was pretty bad but also clearly a slip of tongue as it didn’t confuse the sentence or message - not great though , fuck the DNC

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        Yes, I think the people here claiming Biden is as sharp now as 4 years ago, that he’s always made these “gaffes,” must either 1) not have watched him actually make these errors to see how bad they were 2) do not remember how sharp he was comparatively 4 years ago and/or 3) have never been around someone with cognitive decline and don’t recognize how serious it is.

        And the Putin remark - he caught himself, but still couldn’t remember Zelensky’s name. And he’s met Zelenksy a few times, he should know him.

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        Its only been getting worse as this post conference pressser has gone on.

        He has forgotten entirely to respond to parts of a multipart question, meandered into basically ‘I sat down with Golda Meir and Yitsak Rabin and we accomplished peace!’, just keeps repeating things he did (some of which are legitimate accomplishments) that have little to do with the questions asked…

        … “You said your presidency would be a bridge to younger candidates, what happened to that?”

        Rambles about being in the Senate a really long time

        … at one point he actually said, outloud, ‘How do I not make this seem self centered?’ before answering a ‘Considering the stakes, do you really think you should run?’ type of question.

        In the time I have been typing this he has basically barked in anger after a short response to a question that was followed by the reporter asking ‘thats all?’.

        He also keeps doing the sort of asshole loud whisper sarcasm voice.

        He is coming off as a sundowning angry old man who doesn’t want his car keys taken away.

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          Yes and it’s really getting to the point where it undoubtedly impacts his ability to perform without an aide basically at his side at all times. Imagine him telling another world leader something insane and the translator having to jump in correct him. Or worse, how can you be sure something he did mean to say was actually something he meant to say and not just another mistake? That kind of communication failure is very dangerous at the highest level.

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            Yes, I spoke with someone earlier today about how communication is VITAL to being president. If he can’t communicate, he can’t do his job.

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            Man, imagine being the White House translator the next four years. Whoever wins, you’ll be stuck there looking apologetically at the guests going “sorry dude, IDK either”.

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          Yes, his emotional regulation is pretty bad now too. He was always a seemingly calm, nice old man and now he’s gotten petty, blames his staff for errors (very unlike him), and in general is acting really off.

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    I’d be more concerned if Biden stopped making gaffes, that would be out of character

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      Did you see the debate? He stopped saying much of anything then, for really long periods of time…

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          Mitch McConnell?

          Edit: oh yeah, now I remember, when he completely just went absent in the middle of a presser. Funny how we haven’t heard much from him recently…

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    Even if he goes full and permanent vegetable, he’s still not Trump. Top priority is stopping Orange Hitler from taking control again, so please for the love of human rights, vote for whoever has the the best shot at beating him - if that’s Biden, cool. If it’s Harris, cool. If it’s a literal ham sandwich, fucking fine - all three are orders of magnitude more qualified to do the job then Trump.

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      Yeah, I’ll vote blue… But get this fucker off the ticket. I’d much rather it be Kamala, or like… Nearly anyone really.

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        I’ve been trying to be positive about him but he’s really indefensible at this point.

        His hubris is very likely going to fuck things up for everyone.

        Any other candidate will wipe the floor with trump.

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        Yeah, the question isn’t who Democrats will vote for. It’s who independents will vote for. And there are a lot of independents.

        Relying on the “Never Trump” vote to win this election feels like a terrible risk.

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          And if we’re simply relying on “never Trump” then it shouldn’t matter if Biden steps down because the goal is still the same.

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          Anyone supposedly independent or undecided at this point is and idgit voter who will either stay home or vote for Trump.

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          We don’t have democracy anymore.

          First, the SCOTUS ruling did away with that last week, but let’s ignore that for now…

          We have a fascist authoritarian in charge who refuses to even consider stepping down until he dies - certainly he is not going to let the people decide who gets to be the Democratic nominee - vs. someone who will become a dictator for life and do the same, but somehow much, MUCH worse.

          I hope that many people vote Blue No Matter Who… yet I fear that many independents won’t.

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              It’s a bit hyperbolic in this context, yet also technically accurate in a surprising number of ways, though mostly I was focusing on how he won’t allow an election to determine who gets to be the Democratic nominee. Also, he has the legal ability to murder his opponents, and is both supporting (in Gaza) even while also decrying (in Ukraine) genocide. Anyway, the point is that he is suppressing opposition (from within his own party, by not allowing a debate about who may replace him), which yes he has the legal ability to do, fwiw. So he is not much of one perhaps, but has some characteristics not entirely dissimilar to one.

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                yeah those observations are fair. Regardless now I’m afraid Trump has sealed his win with this shooting. His voters are going to be mobilised like never before for the election

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                  Hrm, so he wasn’t seriously injured, and the outcome ends in his favor, hrm… I see.

                  And Biden’s administration ends up looking weaker than ever before, for allowing it to happen. I hate politics.:-(

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          The question is who will turn out to vote. The number of “independents” who don’t overwhelmingly vote republican or democratic is vanishingly small. This is found time and time again. Ultimately it’s a question of which electorate turns out and which is demotivated enough not to.

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        I think Kamala would be one of the single worst candidates we could put forth, but what do I know? I only worked for the dumpster fire of a DoJ she was partly responsible for.

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          hey now, the US has a long and storied history of loving the fuck out of female presidential candidates.

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        Maybe. Though I say we just come together, get his ass in, and then in the first year also get his ass out and let the VP or Speaker step in. Like it or not, changing now IS risky and it is arguable whether it’s the better choice. I’ll go with what the majority chooses because fighting against Trump and the GOP is what’s important.

        Let me repeat: We are in the game where we must do what the Republicans do and come together against a common enemy. So I recommend everyone agree on a candidate then shut up and checkmark that box. We can go back to verbally juxtaposing our positions through digital larping, or whatever it is we do when most of us forget politics exist for four years.

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      I think this is a dangerous attitude. He’s made some gaffs recently but overall has not been a terrible person or leader. Supporting the possibility of dropping a candidate this late in the game especially when there are no super star saviors waiting in the wings is the kind of party weakness the GOP would eat up and is a recipe for failure. You don’t have to love him at this point, but it’s too late to start over, just suck it up make a donation to his campaign and vow to become more involved in political change at earlier levels so hopefully we are not in this mess again.

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        He has been a terrible candidate though. If the polling is accurate and trump has a slight lead in popular vote, Biden has less than a 5% chance of winning the election (according to Nate Silver’s models). Unfortunately, this is probably optimistic as polling has overestimated the democratic vote in the last 2 presidential elections including the one that included these same two candidates.

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          Nate Silver is terrible and usually terribly wrong, but just step outside the last year and it’s been crystal clear Biden would and will 100% lose the Electoral College to Dump. No amount of Cult Jr telling us to just vote blue no matter who is going to change that. Most Americans don’t know the difference between a row and a column or a watch and a warning, they aren’t thinking critically about Presidential elections.

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            It’s so ironic to see the “vote blue no matter who” people argue against replacing Biden when data shows a high probability of him losing. If they suggest we vote blue no matter who then why are they so ardently telling us that it has to be this one guy?

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              Who will replace him? Michelle Obama doesn’t want to run, Gavin Newsom has full support for Biden, and Kamala Harris is already VP.

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                I’m sure plenty of people would step up if he actually stepped down. What you’re seeing now is people doing damage control to keep from undermining his campaign. It doesn’t mean that they’re actually telling us their true beliefs. Newsom says he fully supports Biden, and if he stepped down, Newsom would fully support whomever took his place.

                I think Harris is just as bad of a candidate as Biden or Clinton. Michelle Obama is an option but I don’t see why we have to treat this like a TV reboot where we keep rehashing the same names and faces that we saw previously. I’d personally love Bernie or AOC, but I know the party leadership hates leftist candidates and will actively work against them, so we’re probably screwed either way just like we were in 2016.

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              “the data” would also suggest that a late replacement could be destructive and have an even Higher probability of losing. More importantly the process to oust Biden is highly unlikely to succeed. Therefore the very act of pushing for these kinds of changes only demonstrates weakness for the GOP and accomplishes nothing but push away any remaining undecided voters toward a party that at least has a clear favorite. I wish people would support the current candidate more aggressively rather than destructively attempt for replacement when doing so is futile.

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                While you are at it, you might also wish for people to vote Blue. It’s not going to happen though - independents refuse to tow a particular party line, preferring instead for candidates to earn their votes, and they will watch the world burn, or even turn to Trump to help it, rather than give in. This is what true democracy looks like - sometimes people lose, when enough people on the other side vote to win. We can only control ourselves - e.g. if the Dems were to pick a replacement, there may be a better chance, while otherwise we simply sit back and roll the dice to see whatever happens.

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        I’m voting Joe because he is still the only qualified candidate for the job. The package he brings is a Vice President who could do the job if he were to step down due to health/age concerns to guarantee a female President as his dream come true. She then gets to pick her Vice President which should absolutely be AOC. The opposition has no convincing argument to draw this out in a court as they would need to present their arguments to AOC for rebuttal,

        It’s just so batshit crazy it can’t fail.

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          Since when has the opposition needed convincing arguments to drag things out? They’ll come up with whatever bullshit they want just to keep stuff from moving forward until they get the ball again.

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          I’m voting Joe because he is still the only qualified candidate for the job.

          There’s a couple of hundred million other qualified candidates in the US. If you’re looking for politicial experience, there’s several hundred in Washington alone.

          Dems have totally failed to bring through the next two or three generations of candidates. That the party feels that he’s their only choice is shameful.

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      Since literally anyone will be Not Trump then can we have someone actually good? That way we’d have “not Trump” and “actually good” both working for us! Win win!

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      I will take weekend at Bernie’s in the White House with people who actually understand policies over fascist bat shit crazy any day. Not even a discussion for me.

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      Going into survival mode forever, where either party can do whatever the frick they want, because they others mustn’t win! Nice system you got there, where it’s like 50\50 every time!

      They present you a Trump and therefore they can even kill your kids, as long as Trump doesn’t win. It’s a scam… both parties are in it. But they divided you all so perfectly fine, you stopped thinking a long time ago.

      Looking forward to your comments, telling me about NO BOth SIdeS!

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        Not sure why the downvotes. The American duopoly is a scam, you are very right. If there is any hope for change it needs to start lower down the food chain. Support the forward party, get involved in local politics, rally against gerrymandering as a hard as possible.

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        Its truly an absolute shit system and it keeps itself propped up this way. What will it even take to see blue and red completely removed? Theyre both terrible options for the future of our world, but when November comes around, they’re still on the ballot.

        Until a revamped Constitution is written by people of all genders, colors, faith, wealth, and education, this will never end.

        We can do better than this and it needs to happen now. Its already too late, but we can help slow the damage to our planet if we act quickly.

        Tired of these popularity contests when we’re literally living in a mass extinction.

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          The US Constitution is not responsible for the 2-party duopoly. It actually grants us the freedom to have all the political parties we want, and corporate oligarchy has entrenched the current 2 parties. What we really need is corporate money banned from politics, starting with a reversal of Citizens United decision.

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            The Constitution was written in part by white men who owned slaves/supported slavery. It does not reflect what America is today.

            The two-party system has held American with a tight grip since the early 1800s. It has done nothing but cause arguments about how much power the federal government should have or not. That argument will continue (and probably get worse) until the USA can embrace having the full support of all of its people. Elected officials are not the answer to this. At the moment, they are people who have time/money to participate in political activities. They generally aren’t aware of what this country is really going through. They only focus on a certain set of issues that they have the passion for. Rarely are they able to properly address other issues, so they end up taking their own party’s stance.

            America was never designed to have parties. In fact, it was said that we should avoid having them at all.

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              We also are no longer constrained by horses and written mail. We have significantly changed how communication works and idk why we can’t have a direct democracy nowadays.

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      That’s just not flying with the ~100,000 people who are actually going to decide this election. They aren’t going to vote Biden. Polling is making this very clear over the last week or so.

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    Biden: Refuses to step down after a dismal electoral debate performance that makes people think he should be in a care home and not in the White House.

    Also Biden: Wrongly introduces Zelenskyy with the same name as the Jasper Carrott looking dictator who invaded his country two years ago.