Fun fact: Torx screwdrivers are compatible with Torx Plus screws, but Trox Plus screwdrivers are only compatible with Torx screws that are one size larger
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The “wtf is this?” is settings, obviously.
I’m Jewish, so I’m going to have to go with the tamper-resistant Torx when I need to use screws on myself.
Would you mind explaining? I think not being Jewish and not having enough he-bros is making this go over my head.
It’s a Star of David.
Oh my… Now I feel silly. I was trying to find wordplay and not looking at the image because I’m familiar with Torx variants.
Welcome to the internet
Torx is the 🐐! Phillips are just terrible, I prefer slotted over Phillips. You can slip out quite easily with slotted but if you are in there they work ok.
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Useful tip: with security torx screws, with the little nub in the centre, if you get a small flathead screwdriver to jam in there and wiggle a bit, that centre bit will snap off without much difficulty.
You should be able to use a regular Torx screwdriver bit after that.This is really gonna come in handy during some of my heists
Their only “heists” when you get caught, until then they’re “shenanigans” 😁
It’s easier to just pick up security bits at any hardware store…
Yeah, just exclusively buy security bits and stop worrying about it.
my brother in christ have you seen phillips head and posi drive?
Life sucks. You can’t win.
Working on an 86 RV and hating posi drive. I swear they were designed to strip.
Also no mention of Spider drive that everyone insists is a torx
Or Phillips and JIS?
And how many of these are needed by the dictates of their use VS how many are needed to restrict your access?
АW Drive On Top
Fuck you all!! I’m not arguing about this again :(
But I found this interesting.
https://www.thoughtco.com/history-of-screws-and-screwdrivers-1992422
When you buy the screws they usually come with a drill bit that fits them
Y’all need Jesus
^H^H^H^H^H^HRobertson screws.___Why is screw DLC legal? Why are people ok with companies preventing people from working in their own devices?
You can turn a tamper proof screw into a regular screw by using a flat head as a lever and breaking off the center post. Harder to do the bigger the screw is.
Tamper proof is to prevent random idiots from messing with your stuff.
Random idiots that don’t know hardware stores exist
Every lock can be broken. My step grandfather would use tamper proof screws to board up his lake house for winter. Otherwise you risk some drunk ice fishing fuck breaking into your house.
If someone really wanted to get in, it doesn’t really matter what fasteners you use, they would just cut the wood. It just prevents common vandals that happen to have a screwdriver, not determined criminals.
Once they’re determined to fuck with your stuff, they’re no longer random. It’s just to delay the occasional dingleberry with a multi tool until they get distracted and forget.
“Huh, doesnt fit. Oh well, guess I’ll carve some folk art into the shitter door.”
Then you can just spackle over the swastikas, but you don’t usually have to reassemble the privacy panels.
Tamper resistant torx is still a weird niche. Tamper resistant slotted for bathroom stalls makes sense because a person with a coin could disassemble a whole row of stalls without any effort, but if you’re carrying around a torx bit, you might as well be carrying around a security bit.
For some reason, Ford decided to use Security Torx to hold together their hybrid battery packs. Couldn’t tell you why that was better then regular Torx.
For some reason, Ford decided to use Security Torx to hold together their hybrid battery packs. Couldn’t tell you why that was better then regular Torx.
I’d guess that was some sort of safety standard designed to protect vehicle owners from themselves.
As Torx gets more and more common, it’s presence is less and less likely to be a serious hurdle, so the security screws are a simple way for them to sort of say to the owner “don’t mess with the stuff below this”. If they want to, they still can, but it’s a specific effort at that point…so Ford can say they’ve implemented a safety measure. Might even be some sort of government standard too, where using a less common fastener style brings them into compliance without needing some sort of even less accessible design, like a sealed off system.
Who said we are? It’s up to Congress to regulate things like that and they don’t know shit about fuck. Unless someone “lobbies” them to do it of course.
Plus what?!
Torx are superior to all other types. I’ve been a carpenter for roughly three decades, and have suffered through all manner of fastening methods that have come and gone. None of them can hold a candle to Torx. I’ve never seen another type that can resist stripping out so well and for so long.
How do you feel about square drive? I’m no carpenter, just someone that’s done enough work around the house, but I’ve found that Torx are the best option but square is a close second (but I don’t think I’ve used them in any especially high torque situations, and they may fall short there).
Square drive (or Robertson) I consider a close second. They do tend to strip out faster, especially in “softer” fasteners like stainless steel.
So square is a close second in terms of quality, while being vastly simpler and cheaper to manufacture. Seems to me like i’d prefer square.
Also i’d be terrified of getting dirt in a torx screw, good luck cleaning it to make it usable again. Though i haven’t actually had this problem personally so it’s just a hunch
I have torx all over my mountain bike that gets caked in dirt, a little bit of water and a pick gets them usable in seconds. I could argue that hex is superior to square but they’re both worse than torx so who really cares.
You clearly have no idea how fasteners are manufactured… and you worry needlessly about hypotheticals.
Torx, hex, and square/Robertson all require broaching, generally with a rotary broach. The manufacturing process is basically identical, though the manufacturing of the machine tools varies slightly.
Square and Robertson are different. No taper in square
Robertson drive tho
Least favorite for sure.
Vastly Superior to Philips, which is vastly superior to blade/slotted for anything resembling a power tool.
robertsons are tapered, so unless you get a proper positive lock, or they have dirt in them or something, they’re more liable to stripping out. But other than that, they’re great.
Fellow contractor here. Torx or go home. Drywall screws are the only exception I’m willing to make.
Where do you buy torx wood screws or torx metal screws?
I’ve never seen any.
Most screws sold around here have a torx head
IIRC Spax and GRK make torx multi-purpose fasteners that you can use for wood and metal
Torx can’t hold shit. They’re single use screws.
And a set of Allen keys usually saves a trip to the hardware store if you’re missing the right size Torx bit.
Hexes save trip to store when you need torx? How?
Because a hex key can fit (albeit imperfectly) into a Torx opening and loosen or tighten the fastener as needed.
It’s more likely to slip or strip, but it’s better than nothing.
The opposite is also true.
What about hexes?
Robertson is superior to all.
Torx should be the default over Phillips for sure. Phillips is fine for shit like access panels or screw terminals. Slotted is useless for anything but the adjustment on pots and thermostats. Robertson is just a proto-torx. Everything else either exists to make someone money or is a bolt
