• pickle_party247@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    They’re right though. I’m into Battlebit Advanced at the moment and while it’s a refreshing take on the Battlefield formula of combined arms gameplay, its also so much sweatier than the old Battlefields I came up on were.

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      I agree. I picked it up a few days ago and have been playing, man do I ever get smoked, people are insanely sweaty. I thought maybe it was due to me not playing a ton of FPS games lately and getting a bit older… I decided to play a round of battlefield and did much better. People are sweating their ass off, I’m sure it also doesn’t help that I don’t know the maps yet.

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        I went straight into it from playing a lot of BF4 recently and it really took me aback. Weapon balancing is pretty awful as well, SMGs are much too powerful- the Vector has no recoil and a high fire rate so people can kill you in less than a second with it.

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    1 year ago

    Game devs do try, but it’s hard when the problem are the losers with superiority complexes who lack control over their own lives.

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    I really don’t get most of these comments. There’s so many games out there you can play that aren’t competitive. So why waste your time on a competitive game and complain that people try hard? That’s the whole point of competitive games.

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      A real answer is my spouse plays them. I occasionally try to get into a game they are playing to spend more time together, but it’s so toxic it never lasts more than a few nights.

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      Well I think there are enough games which attract both types of players and there is a lot of friction. Most Blizzard games fall into that category.

      World of Warcraft and Overwatch attracted a lot of casual gamers and it is a shame some competitive players give them a hard time.

      Taking World of Warcraft as an example, it would actually make more sense for competitive players to play with their guilds only. But many want to use the random dungeon tool additionally, out of lazyness in most cases, and than go ballistic on casuals.

      If you can’t deal with players being in a dungeon the first time or doing LFR, than don’t use the tool…

    • It’s so weird playing games like CSGO and seeing two completely opposite sides of the same toxicity. You have the “try hards” that are toxic to the lesser skilled players, and the toxic players that talk shit about people who “try hard.” They’re not even necessarily talking to or about each other. A player just playing the objective and doing well will be called out as a tryhard, and a player who is doing pretty well and makes one mistake can be berated by his team for being a noob.

      Having spoken with so many gamers who behave like this, I have found one common theme among them: They never played sports or team games IRL. Which leads me to believe the real root issue is a complete and total lack of sportsmanship, since video games do absolutely nothing to promote or teach good sportsmanship.

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      Back in the days before SBMM became the norm, you could have fun playing a competitive game without everyone being sweaty. My best gaming memories are of Halo 3 social games. It was still competitive but you rarely got ruined by full teams of hyper-sweaty no lifes. Even if you got put with people a lot better than you, most times they wouldnt just ruin your game, you could communicate through teabagging and just hang out. But now that CSR and loot box rewards etc are on the line, everyone is a hyper sweat and will just continue to dick on you so they can get their next lootbox faster.

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      Most competitive games like shooters, mobas, etc have casual modes for beginners, people playing while watching something in the background or just for a fun game night. The opposite mode being ranked, which is obv more competitive and it’s expected for you to tryhard. I wouldn’t have any problems if it weren’t for said tryhards joining casual games and going off on people who are still getting their foot into the game or some baked discord group and acting like it’s all fair.

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      I might actually be able to answer that: toxic overcompetetive players can’t be kept out. As soon as a game is of a certain genre, size, design, they flood the game and complain about it being too easy and having no endgame, therefore being dead. Since toxic overcompetetive players dominate all online channels by sheer time spent alone, they raise the impression of being “what gamers want” while actually like being less than 10% of a playerbase.

      So far, every single game that started out as casual has become a playground for toxic overcompetetive players over time thanks to this mechanic. Funnily enough, the usual “you can just play something for casual” is usually being used after invading the casual game and demanding it turning more toxic and overcompetetive.

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      nothing is wrong for having a competitive mindset and therefore beating weaker casual player. The toxic part there is blaming the casual player for being bad like most (not all) tryhards in some communities. What they didn’t know, with such a behavior they actively prevent newer player to access the game cause todays casual gamer could be tomorrows competitive player.

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        Cue PUBG. The only ones left in the subreddit are the sweats. Telling them it’s a bad experience for a beginner to be matched with a high ranking tryhard in their first games is met with a response how you should suck it up and get good.

        Without exception.

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    I personally love being “overly competitive” in games. I want a mode of the game to do that in. That’s why I play ranked mode in league, where ARAM and Normal games are for the forfun players.

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      Same. I like that League has the options for both. There’s a lot I dislike, but I’m also a glutton for punishment.

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    Dude I’m not exactly a casual gamer, and yet I still get my ass kicked by smug hardcore gamers in every single online multiplayer game i play. Among friends, there’s a more even and more fun level of difficulty, but online it’s a constant steamroll.

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      I loved shitting on people in CoD and League when I was 11 through 17. Tried to play league now as 25yo and I can see that the noobs that I loved to make fun of just didn’t have the time to read guides and study the game 10 hours a day. Anyway, I get shit on nowdays

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    Yeah… The times someone dismissed me in World of Warships because my win ratio was too bad… Yeah, I’ve been playing the game for ages and was very slow to get better at it, so my stats overall are bad, so what?

    Besides, it’s a game. Go get your self esteem somewhere where it matters, not in a fucking video game…

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    Uh, yeah, no, that’s the experience. It’s what I only play TF2 on custom servers, matchmaking is just not worth it.