• RegalPotoo@lemmy.world
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    The most unbelievable thing about these photos are that trump could kneel like that without shattering

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    The awkward kiss almost convinced it was real. Almost. The kneeling photo is a bit jank and hard to believe, but the kiss being so awkward is so believable that it almost convinced me lol.

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    AI has come to the point where I only have a “gut feeling” it is AI because it looks so polished and weird. But there are many aotzer (stolen) art-styles that look completely different and I wouldn’t notice if no one told me.

    you cannot sniff them out anymore by just saying “look at the wretched fingers”

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      The lighting is always way too good, looks like a model shoot or 3d animated movie where a team of people spent ages tweaking all the light positions and brightness.

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      you cannot sniff them out anymore by just saying “look at the wretched fingers”

      Really? Not even the totally detached hotdog on the general in the back?

      Him playing air guitar. Missing a finger on the other side

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    The obvious clue this is AI is still in the hands. The first one has some deformed hands, and in the second Trump’s hands are too big

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    God this just made me think though, I would bet North Korea is actually using AI for even better propaganda against their citizens right now. Being so disconnected from the rest of the world and tech starved, the people probably don’t know a machine could even do this.

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      North Korea, you know folks say, folks say, oh North Korea, but let me tell you folks Kim is lovely, and he’s a big fan so we love him. And people are saying North Korea, folks let me tell you, let me just say, the North Korean people are lovely. Beautiful country, nobody even needs to vote folks, how nice is that

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    More of this please. I mean if there are people who believed pizzagate, the same people never heard about AI pictures and would believe this, too.

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      No. Because there’s actual photos of Trump saluting North Korean generals, posing with Epstein, and more. By spreading fake photographs we’re giving them cover to claim legitimate pictures as being faked.

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      Faked photographs intended to serve as deceptive propaganda don’t seem like something we should be asking for more of, no matter who the target is.

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          “Its a good thing as long as it hurts the right people”

          Fuck that. Be better than them.

          Its such a low bar it should be easy

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              I am so torn between these two arguments. Sometimes you have to go to war, but what atrocities can you live with committing? It’s a tough line to walk.

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                Do you want to be steamrolled by morons or do you want to play meme games better than them so they hide and cower? Pretty easy if you ask me.

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                  Yep, that’s the one side. The other side is the idea that we choose to be moral or immoral and, while name calling is mean, lying and trying to deceive is immoral. It would also mean being a part of the shift from “pics or it didn’t happen” to “you can’t believe every picture you see”, mirroring what happened with news. There’s a argument that we’re there already or it’s inevitable, there’s an argument of “do anything you have to in order to win” but, while that feels true, it also feels kind of wrong to me.

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            The difference is no official White House or Harris Campaign (or lib news outlets) have retweeted this. People on the internet are going to make this shit, and I find it entertaining honestly. Once the official channels start trying to pretend it’s news or real, then it’s too far imo.

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        If we’re gonna suffocate under avalanches of fakes why not invite the asshats to the party too.

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        Thank you. This really is just asking to pour gasoline on the fire.

        I don’t think this is something that will benefit us in the long term, regardless of how funny it is right now.

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        I completely agree with you. But on the other hand I’m thinking: “They use fake news and fabricated bullshit to convince others to their cause. It works because in general people are dumb, so why not use the same tacric to divert the dumb voters into the right direction”.

        But I’m against spreading fake news, there’s already so much out there and it’s getting harder every day to distinguish real from fake, even for people like me (an OSINT analyst). It’s just that extremists use nasty weapons and don’t care about ethics while I try to stay honest. It’s like bringing a knife into a gun fight. The general public doesn’t think but blindly believes anything they see and follow the person who screams the loudest “I have a sollution” without understanding those solutions do more harm then good.

        Seriously, the movie Idiocracy is a documentary, not a comedy. It’s painful how realistic it is.

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          The worrying thing is it erodes faith in reality beyond what can be directly experienced. “I can’t trust anything I’m told anymore because photos and organizations are compromised.” And all orgs are going to drift towards using the best weapon they have to change minds, which is AI generated images. It’s the best tool, and if the other guys use it and you don’t then you’re behind in the arms race.

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          Seriously, the movie Idiocracy is a documentary, not a comedy. It’s painful how realistic it is.

          I say this to my SO all the time, but they have “faith in humanity” for some reason.

          Especially re: how AI/robotics will be the “great equalizer”. They think eventually goods will be so cheap and we will have UBI and no one will have to work… I think, no matter how cheap goods are, the corporations will find ways to make money and/or keep people poor. They say, “If the corporations do that, people will rise up and make them.” I say, “Are you actually sure about that? We let corporations do all kinds of other nasty things without repercussions…”

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            “Yeah! People will rise up! Second amendment baby!” - brings an AR-15 to a drone fight while those companies, whether it’s the US government or private, know which porn they watch every night. Their life is ruined when they are cut off from tiktok and Instagram, they will starve to death when they cannot pay for food anymore because the internet is cut off, so banking and digital payment is gone.

            Look at Google, having a monopoly right now, free to do whatever the fuck they want. Disney+ apparently having in their license agreement they are not liable if they killed someone in one of their parks. Mercedes Benz is planning to build a mega tower in Dubai, using slave labor like is the standard there. Like they have been doing in China with Oighurs in concentration camps, with their history during the Second World War. Apple using child labor and exploiting miners of rare earth metal mines in third world countries.

            Yeah, people will rise up. No one accepts oppression. *coughs in Russian, Korean, Chinese, etc.

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        If the target is someone who habitually lies about objective reality I approve of them receiving similar disinformation campaigns. What I don’t like is that these images are obvious fakes and obsequiousness to a dictator is something Trumpanzees love. So they’ll have no effect.

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    The photo of him saluting the N. Korean general is real. We don’t even need to fabricate this kind of material. If we are going to fabricate it, Trump’s service should be more explicit and x-rated.

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      I like the idea of fabricating it specifically to use on Twitter since Elon is being a piece of shit about it all.

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    Looks shiny and “deep fried” kind of like midjourney?

    One open secret in AI land is that everyone trains on everyone elses output (like this, to adopt the popular style). Even if its blatantly against the license. Who’s gonna prove it?

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      If the AI art can spit out art that looks like the commercial product then it was either trained on the copyrighted works or on art that was infringing. So you can tell by the existence of anything copyrighted existing in the output.

      Also, fuck copyright for being waaaay to long and abused by companies to stifle creativity.