The Israeli military has ordered new forced evacuations in parts of central Gaza, signaling the expansion of ground operations and the latest displacement of Palestinians, many of whom have already been displaced multiple times over the course of Israel’s war on the territory. At least 50 Palestinians have been killed in the last 24 hours, according to the Health Ministry in Gaza, pushing the official death toll past 40,200.
Meanwhile, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken ended his ninth visit to the Middle East since October without securing any breakthrough for a ceasefire deal. In Chicago, where Democrats are gathered for the DNC, Gaza has been mentioned only in passing from the main stage of the convention. The party’s official platform adopted this week does not call for an arms embargo on Israel and reasserts unwavering U.S. support for Israel.
“There’s been an almost competition between Democrats and Republicans on ‘how much can we show Israel that we support them and that we have their back?’” says human rights lawyer Zaha Hassan, a fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and previously the senior legal adviser to the Palestinian negotiating team during Palestine’s bid for U.N. membership. “Why should Israel ever compromise its positions if they know that by holding out, they’ll get more goodies from the U.S.?”
Doubts grew for Carter when GHWBush negotiated for Iran to keep them until after the election too.
Bernie brought it up, AOC brought it up, Obama brought it up. 3 of THE MOST PROMINENT DEMOCRATS.
“Largely Ignored”
Lmao
Glad to see the genocide is over.
Please describe exactly what would satisfy you politically and the steps it would for the entire planet to get there…
Why is it that you folks constantly shit on everything while offering zero idea of specifically what it is you want?
Acting like its a mystery what would be morally tennable is crazy talk. You are pretending not to know and wasting everyones time. But sure, I guess there are kids becoming adults all the time so we can repeat it …again…
At minimum: Follow the Leahy laws of not funding or supplying a country involved in war crimes. And following the same spirit of that law: Stop sheltering Israel from consequences at the UN.
People want the US to stop sending bombs and weapons to Israel. There is no indication the democrats plan on endorsing such a proposal anytime soon. Seeing as it is it likely the only way to stop the carnage Israel is inflicting on Gaza, anything short of that just comes across as empty words.
Seeing as it is likely the only way…
“Seeing as”… That’s the point where you show everyone that you DONT know better.
Keep telling yourself you do. Keep pretending. But you have no right to say you know better.
Geez I was literally just answering your question. You don’t have to get so bent out of shape because I told you something specific that people actually want.
You are saying shit like “people want” and offering vague general missives. While the majority of the country… the DNC… etc. they all say otherwise.
You aren’t a poll you don’t really know what “the people” want as you post a comment about the world.
Frankly I agree with you. I don’t want that. But fyi no that’s not the fucking case.
Vague missives? You’re the one who literally said,
Why is it that you folks constantly shit on everything while offering zero idea of specifically what it is you want?
Then I told you what the people you referred to as “you folks” specifically want and you’re suddenly incredibly defensive. Get a grip.
Stop funding and supplying arms to Israel. Most of the rest of the world recognizes Palestine as a state. Back the ICJ arrests ruling for Netanyahu and Hamas leaders for war crimes. Urge the UN to sanction Israel for apartheid like they did for South Africa. It can be done. It’s been done before. America just has to have the will to do the right things.
Most everything you have mentioned has already been done save for the arms sales and a UN sanction; which won’t change anything. Nothing you mention fundamentally changes the situation and I mention that because incremental not fundamental change is what is needed here…
All while you bitch and moan about the “fundamental” side with nothing else to offer. So incremental change is happening while you offer nothing but incremental bs.
We’ve done nothing and we’re all out of ideas.
Dave Harden, a former USAID mission director to the West Bank and Gaza, described the pier project as “humanitarian theater.”
The exact point of every one of yours and these types of comments.
You like to pretend it’s the organized political parties that are all out of ideas…
All why you keep shitting on every political forum online with nothing to do.
You are the ones that have tried nothing but keep telling everyone there’s nothing to do!
But you have cartoons to tell yourself everyone else is “blue maga”!
If you won’t consider the answer, then why ask the question?
We are talking about US politics here, so I’m assuming the focus is what the US has been doing.
Stop funding and supplying arms to Israel.
Like the $20 billion we approved earlier this month (in direct violation of the foreign assistance act)
recognize Palestine as a state
We simply do not do this. Then again we don’t recognize Taiwan either.
Back ICJ arrest ruling for Netenyahu
The US has been opposed to this warrent, and there is talk of sanctioning the ICJ over it.
Should anyone ever arrest any Israeli official pursuant to an ICJ ruling, there is standing US law (American Service-Members’ Protection Act, otherwise known as the invade the Hague act) authorizing the President to use full military force to secure their release [0]
Urge the UN to sanction Israel
The US is routinely the sole veto on every major UN vote on Israel.
[0] This isn’t Israel specific. It us authorized for bassically any ally that is not an ICJ member.
It wasn’t Obama. Both AOC and Reverend Warnock made Gaza key pieces of their speeches on Monday delivered to 20 million viewers:
https://youtu.be/WP0RzBkab2w#t=2m40s
https://youtu.be/hWU43_R9R58#t=12m44s
If Warnock didn’t move you then you aren’t human.
Biden too:
https://youtu.be/ehmgSOPVBZw#t=38m14s
Bernie Sanders hit it again Tuesday.
I thought Obama said during his speech to listen to people “even the ones outside because they have a point” or something like that.
I think that was Biden who said something like that.
I’d need to check the transcript, but I know he didn’t call out Gaza by name.
Video with transcript here:
Yeah, I might have missed it, but I didn’t see it.
I agree with Raphael Warnock.
That’s speech had me like.
“Doubts grow?”
Why would they even need to “grow?” This is just June and July all over again, with the only difference being that Hamas isn’t buying any of it this time around.
The Biden administration isn’t trying to negotiate anything. It’s just trying to strike a pose to dodge the entirely deserved condemnation it’s getting for enabling a genocide while continuing to enable a genocide.
The Biden administration isn’t trying to negotiate anything. It’s just trying to strike a pose to dodge the entirely deserved condemnation it’s getting for enabling a genocide while continuing to enable a genocide.
Biden may be old, but he’s doing a pretty good job of imitating Neo dodging an agents bullets right about now.
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I mean…
The alternative is not being mad that we’re funding what’s turning out to be the worst genocide in most people’s lifetime…
What kind of psychopath wouldn’t be mad?
Like. Are you trying to shit on someone for having basic human decency?
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“Doubts grow” implies that anybody believed it in the first place. I don’t doubt that the administration preferred a ceasefire, but Netanyahu has pretty much no incentive to even try for one. If anything, his motivation would be to keep stringing along the current administration and make the war as bloody and nasty as possible, since that will peal away support for Harris. If Trump wins, he doesn’t have to worry about getting nagged anymore, he may even get increased support from Trump and carte blanche to go all out.
If this current administration preferred a ceasefire, why send the 2000lb bombs? Complete head-scratcher there
Because Israel has nukes and a 2000lb bomb is a fuck of a lot better than just glassing the entire area or using them against Iran who would 100% invade if the US were to withdraw support.
It’s almost like global politics, especially when talking about the Middle East and nuclear powers is really fucking complicated.
Israel can already defend itself. Those bombs and continued aid were, and are not required. They are being used to escalate, it’s really not that complicated.
The threat of nuclear war is old hat
I don’t know the answer, but I’d imagine geopolitical ramifications are a big part, and that it’s more complicated that us civilians without top secret clearance know. Maybe I’m wrong and it’s as easy as saying no, but I doubt it. I’d like if they did though.
I don’t buy the whole deep state idea, but I suppose anything is possible. I enjoy a good conspiracy shitpost now & then. This issue feels much more Occam’s razor than 4-D chess. I mean with 40000 already counted dead it’s pretty disgusting to have to try to justify. You’re just creating more radicalized people with these actions.
I’m not trying to suggest there’s some deep state fuckery at play. I’m just saying that I think the situation is not black and white and there are more pieces to the puzzle than we are privy to.
Again, I would love if we stopped supplying weapons. I left my last job in manufacturing partly because we were making parts that were going into bombs that were ending up in Israel. That’s not a fun thing to have on your conscience all of the time.
There is plenty of gray area in anything. This seems pretty cut & dry. This is has not been self defense, it has been nothing but escalation. The campaign to justify it rings hollow.
I understand and agree, but there are a lot of national secrets traded between Israel and the US amongst probably countless other national interests that we are unaware about that may be important to consider. If the cutting of “defense” support somehow compromises national security, then it might be less bad to begrudgingly supply. I’m not saying that’s the case, but that’s a plausible argument given the scale of geopolitics.
Because Israel is a major ally in a defensive war.
