• selokichtli@lemmy.ml
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    21 days ago

    Start a new party, don’t believe what everyone will say about the chances for it to succeed. Talk to the people, directly.

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    Oh look, someone trying to push Trump on us. Bless your heart, you just think we’re all idiots here.

    No, they’re not the same. None of us are buying it.

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      No, they’re not the same. None of us are buying it.

      The American empire is the American empire regardless of who is in charge. Let’s get off our great-man theory high horse and actually analyze material conditions

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      I love how Americans are unable to comprehend that people outside the US exist and that internal US politics aren’t the top priority for the rest of the world. The burger empire is a plague upon the humanity regardless of which piece of human garbage is at the helm of it.

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        22 days ago

        I love how Americans are unable to comprehend that people outside the US exist and that internal US politics aren’t the top priority for the rest of the world.

        Pretty rich given that you do nothing but post about US politics lol.

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          I really do wish the effects of US politics stayed within the US, unfortunately for the rest of us the actions of US plague the entire planet.

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            Ah, so this

            I love how Americans are unable to comprehend that people outside the US exist and that internal US politics aren’t the top priority for the rest of the world.

            Was nonsense. Big of you to admit it.

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              Do you understand what the word “internal” means? People outside the US don’t really care what you do to yourselves, but what you do that affects other countries politically, economically, and militarily does matter.

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                Your post literally comments on internal US politics. Can’t you remain consistent for like 2 seconds? Its no wonder you have absolutely no solutions to anything. You just make noise.

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                  Oh yeah these people don’t ever ever ever give actual solutions on how to achieve any goals. They just constantly criticize and then act like the victim when you call out how absurdly outside reality they are.

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        What are you going to do about it? Complain more on the same internet invented mostly by the country you hate?

        It’s like you’re protesting Chinese slave labor but posting it on your slave labor produced electronics like a hypocrite.

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          What are you going to do about it? Complain more on the same internet invented mostly by the country you hate?

          You don’t like slavery, yet you’re using Latin characters, who were invented by the Romans? Checkmate!

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          Complain more on the same internet invented mostly by the country you hate?

          Says the guy from the country which is by far the bigger drain of Industrial products in human history (you owe the planet something on the order of $50 trillion from the trade imbalance alone iirc). And that’s not counting for hundreds of millions killed from pollution, poverty, wars, co2 emissions and so on.

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          “You criticize society yet you live in it, curious”

          Also the US didn’t have the first internet type network

          And there isn’t slave labor in China

          You’re living in an alternate reality.

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      So you understand the flaws of First past the post voting? Why arent you working towards a more representative electoral system?

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      Why is it so common that people assume if you don’t like one candidate that automatically makes you a proponent of the other? Is it not possible for you to conceive that both candidates may be power-hungry human garbage?

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        They’re centrists, scared centrists, who recognize that political in-fighting can result in a split vote letting the party with less votes take the election. However in addition to being humongous pricks about it (helping the in-fighting), they fail to recognize two very obvious facts:

        1. Progressives don’t have a candidate. In any party. You can’t split the vote if there’s no other option to split the vote with.
        2. The popular vote doesn’t matter. Hasn’t mattered since the Republican party stole the election in 2000 (if it ever mattered in the first place). There’s somewhere between 3-6 states where the popular vote, if you trust it to be recorded and reported accurately, can swing the election one way or another. In the other 44 states, the popular vote does. Not. Matter.
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    There is a lot of truth in this picture. 2 sides, both shit for humanity. It’s a big problem really… Divide and conquer tactic… proven tactic.

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    I wish I could block keywords in images. Can’t fucking escape it. And my country is owned by the queen king.

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      Work towards passing state level electoral reform in your state. Once more then two parties can be viable, competition will force the legacy political parties to actually attempt to represent people.

      I doubt they’d be able to make that pivot. Representation in exchange for votes is a purity test neither will pass IMO.

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        Already ahead of you on that as an active member of my state’s ranked choice voting initiative.

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        Well thanks for that I guess. Voting Harris and protesting against the genocide still seem like the most effective combination of actions with my very minimal power.

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          Thats great, but you have to think about what happens after voting for Harris that will prevent this choice next election?

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            The vote is necessary, but not sufficient. My vote is a short term strategy for harm reduction. Working towards actual electoral reform is my long term strategy for fixing things.

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      1 amerikkka has veto so its literally impossible 2 im not sure freeing amerikkka from what few laws it follows would make anything better

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    Ever wonder why these are our only two choice?

    Why 3rd parties can’t run without spoiling the election?

    Consider watching a video on First Past the Post voting to find out why the spoilere effect exists.

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    Now that can’t be, I received word from a liberal on this very platform that the US didn’t send them $24 billion in weapons, they actually only sent $20 billion therefore the genocide is back on the menu!

    Sometimes I wonder if liberals even feel cognitive dissonance at being the same MAGA chuds they claim to hate so much.

    Ah wait, if they did, they wouldn’t be liberals!

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      Liberals delude themselves as being different simply because they “support” liberation politics but they are simply helpless against the system that forces them to support fascist policies

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        None of you dipshits have any solutions to anything. All you do is make noise. “Don’t vote for the Dems” " Okay , then what?" crickets. Gaza getting fucked no matter what is literally just a reason to ignore the lot of you.

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          I like how you decided to pretend that Leftists don’t have any solutions, rather than meaningfully engage with the solutions presented by Leftists.

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            Leftists have no solutions on Gaza. They just make noise. “Don’t vote for anyone who can win and change things” isn’t a solution and anyone who isn’t a child understands that .

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              Depends on where the Leftists are. If you’re strictly referring to America, then the Leftist stance is that both the DNC and GOP are aligned on their undying loyalty to Israel as a tool of Imperialism, and therefore neither option presents a pro-Gaza path. Instead, building up revolutionary pressure by supporting anti-Imperialist movements worldwide and organizing domestically outside the bounds of bourgeois electoralism builds pressure. This pressure can be levied against the ruling parties.

              Your “solution” is to sacrifice Gaza.

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                There is significant anti-genocide faction within the democratic party that is trying to change things from within. There is nothing like that within the GOP. The only way to stop this (and the broader unconditional support of Israel) is through the democratic party. However small you think the chances of success of that strategy, leftists offer literally zero alternative paths to this outcome that have any chance of success.

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                  There is significant anti-genocide faction within the democratic party that is trying to change things from within. There is nothing like that within the GOP. The only way to stop this (and the broader unconditional support of Israel) is through the democratic party.

                  This is vibes-based. The DNC will not cease support for Israel because the US State needs it for its Imperialist ambitions.

                  However small you think the chances of success of that strategy, leftists offer literally zero alternative paths to this outcome that have any chance of success.

                  Why do you believe organizing and building outside pressure has zero chance of success? Why do you think the DNC will magically work against their material interests?

                  Feel free to come back and apologize when I end up being correct and the DNC never ceases support for Israel without outside pressure and risk of system destabilization.

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          Don’t like people removed from the sidelines? Make them put their money where their mouth is by passing electoral reform in your state!

          Get them off the sidelines and put them in the game! It’s so easy right? Force them to show us how it’s done by implementing a more representative electoral system such as Ranked Choice voting. Then they can run for public office with no spoiler effect.

          Wouldn’t you want that? To have them prove it?