I love the bias in the article, like the 3rd party apps were basically just stealing revenue. And understating exactly how insane the api prices were too
The Reddit debacle continues as it replaces the r/malefashionadvice subreddit moderators following their refusal to reopen to the public.
Reddit followed through on its threat to take over subreddits if they did not reopen to the public with its takeover of r/malefashionadvice on Thursday. Prior to closing down in protest of Reddit’s API price changes. The subreddit was one of the biggest on the platform that was still engaged in the protest, boasting more than five million subscribers.
Reddit reached out to moderators telling them if they didn’t reopen their subreddits they would be in violation of the company’s moderator code and could be replaced. “We more or less have been expecting the removal for the past few days,” one former moderator of r/malefashionadvice, who asked to go by “Walker,” told The Verge.
A Reddit administrator warned r/malefashionadvice it would be replaced if it didn’t reopen and a month later, it stayed true to its word and took over the platform. The subreddit originally had three moderators but was replaced on Thursday with just one, ModCodeofConduct. Reddit users can once again browse the content on r/malefashionadvice, but it will be in a restricted mode that prohibits all but certain users from making new posts.
Although ModCodeofConduct has taken over the subreddit, the mod posted a call for people to volunteer to become a moderator for the page on Friday, telling people to comment on the post to volunteer.
ModCodeofConduct has also taken over other subreddits including r/ShittyLifeProTips, r/AccidentalRenaissance, r/oldbabies, r/fordtransit, and others.
Major Reddit moderators went dark last month in protest of the company’s announcement that it would be raising its API prices, saying it was necessary because Big Tech companies like Microsoft and Google are using its data to train AI models. The site’s API allows other companies to use data from Reddit to bolster their own products and services, but the change would mean a large surcharge for premium access.
Nearly 9,000 subreddits temporarily shut down on June 12 in protest, but in a group statement, moderators said, “Others will go away permanently unless the issue is adequately addressed since many moderators aren’t able to put in the work they do with the poor tools available through the official app,” The Guardian reported. It continued, “This isn’t something any of us do lightly: we do what we do because we love Reddit, and we truly believe this change will make it impossible to keep doing what we love.”
Thank you.
There’s an ad in the end if you want to trim it.
Done 😀
It may not be displayed correctly, but it seems you trimmed your own comment on the article but not Gizmodo’s promotion.
I am an idiot sorry, fixed fixed 😀
No, you are golden.
What a useless headline. They could write it hundreds more times for the hundreds of other subs still in revolt.
But not every such sub has >5 million members - this one is big.
Lemmys been a great alternative, hope it starts to take off
I think once threads is federated that should become the club to the knees of Reddit. I hate Meta but I enjoy threads.
Starts? My sibling in Christ, it’s happening already.
Showed Lemmy to a few friends and my significant other. Hopefully it keeps gaining critical mass with all the negative attention Reddit’s been having.
My lemmitard in christ it hasnt happened yet. We are only a small .1% of crossovers and the whole fediverse is still less populated than r/malefashion advice.
By any measure, Lemmy/Kbin has already started to take off. Rome wasn’t built in a day, nor was Reddit.
Someone needs to start a male fashion advice community and get them all over here then.
Do it! I wanted to like that sub, but just couldn’t.
You don’t need everyone for it to take off. It’s started. You also can’t look at sub subscribers because there are a lot of dead accounts.
It is not the number of users. It is quality of interaction. And I argue that it is already here (kbin user). Yes, it still misses such things like subreddit for a particular obscure game, but the overall experience is great.
I agree, and can’t wait for it to trickle down to less popular interests. I find it to be wanting with some subjects.
Right — on Reddit, if you didn’t get to a post within say the first hour or so*, you were going to be banished to a vast wasteland of unseen comments with only one upvote.
Even if you did, well, your comment best be damned clever, funny, or interesting to be interacted with much.
This basically feels like a less lonely Reddit.
Mastodon also has this vibe for me (vs twitter). Basically, the superstar economy effect is less strong.
*or piggyback on an existing top-rated comment (trying to make one’s own relevant to it, or “hijacking” it)
I 100% agree. I sometimes think of le funniest heehee hohos on reddit and i get 2 upvotes. Lemmy hits that dopamine a little harder with smaller number of users.
I think a lot of people who sign up end up staying. I find my interaction on Reddit diminishes more and more and usage of lemmy keeps going up
But where’s the porn
Lemmynsfw
You can talk about quality all you want, but if the room you wanna be in is empty you’re going to leave. You need a ton of users to populate the smaller communities that people will stick around for, not just the meme and porn threads.
It’s not like Reddit started with the current user base. It starts with big topics like memes, news, politics, ask, etc. That’s rolling. From there it starts to go niche and fill out.
That is the worst metric for whether something is “taking off” or not. Reddit wasn’t built in a day, and the fediverse won’t be either.
Reddit kind of got lucky with the development of modern smartphones.
Old format forums that were designed for desktops were way too cluttered for mobile, especially with how small screens were back then. Reddit comes along with its streamlined take on forums as well as the ability to have a forum for any and every subject all on one site and it just took off.
Reddit began as a clunky forum and was popular long before smartphones, though. And like the other person said, they didn’t have an app for a long time. So this take of yours is a little flawed.
It wasn’t popular long before smartphones. It was known about, sure. But the development of modern smartphones is what made Reddit one of the biggest sites in the world.
I was on it prior to that so I completely disagree
And now, it’s back the other way, with too many web sites (including this one) tailored too far for mobile sites and not enough focus on desktops.
Well… They didn’t have an app for the longest time. That’s why there were so many 3rd party.
Reddit got to where it is by relying on the labor of others. The original site code was open source, the mobile apps were made by other people, users moderated the subs for free, and users generated almost all of the content.
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Most idiots don’t recognize the fact that they are idiots.
Spez is just trying to make Reddit as profitable as possible before jumping ship. He doesn’t care what happens to Reddit, just what it can get him.
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People with brains recognize this. So Spez does not.
He just needs the illusion that it’s profitable. He doesn’t care if user engagement is shitting on him, as long as users are still engaged. Once he’s lined his pockets, he’s gonna jump ship. But not before he’s able to milk every penny he thinks he can get.
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Honestly I just assume these people are driven by their greed and only care about numbers
Morality is a lost concept these days, people just want power and money
I guess to be fair, I have lost just about all my faith in society/humanity so I just assume the worst lately.
If he’s just looking to cash out and move on then what he’s doing makes sense. Otherwise it’s insanity. He’ll be going down with the ship. As far as investors, I think it’s mostly speculation.
I just really get this feeling that he is. Or maybe I’m just trying to apply logic to the situation, because you’re right it is insanity.
But at the end of the day all his volunteers just want the power, so they caved. Yeah, maybe they got annoyed, but not enough to do anything about it.
Users on the other hand…
How did he mess up? He’s cashing out and burning the place down behind him. This is all standard practice in vulture capitalism. It happens every day, but you don’t see or care because most of the companies it happens to aren’t centered around a social platform you spend all your free time on.
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He’s cashing out with more money than he’ll be able to spend in his lifetime. Yeah, what a fucking rube.
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I’m not sure why you’re asduming that because I can see what he cares about, it must be all I care about too.
He absolutely will sleep fine; he doesn’t give a fuck about reddit or its communities. He never did. It was only ever about money. Yeah, it sucks what he’s done, but pretending he’s the loser in this situation when he’s going to live out his days in luxury and comfort while we’ve lost our communities and will always be stuck in the grind supporting the lifestyles of him and his ilk is embarrassingly delusional.
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They may not be happy, but neither are many of the rest of us. The difference is that they have the resources to be comfortable and healthy during their misery. 2/3 of us live paycheck-to-paycheck and can barely, or just flat out can’t, afford basic things like healthcare or maintenance on the vehicles we’re usually required to own to survive.
Being poor is not better than being rich, and only sheltered middle class morons seem to think it is.
And now i am here. Fuck them. I will never go back.
Welcome!
now let’s create our own r/place here. how can I help?
Get selected as a mod and private the community again, it’ll make for hilarious headlines and look wonderful for their IPO.
Man I hope people volunteer and then immediately take the subreddit private again
Is there a replacement community?
If any I’m glad the mods got their life back
MFA was one of my fave subs so I decided to check out what happened since this forced reopening. The pinned thread asking for mod volunteers is being trolled right now. I love it.
That first comment has thrown me for a loop. The replies accuse if of being ChatGPT, and it extremely looks like ChatGPT, but I think it might be a human imitating ChatGPT? Bang-on imitation if so.
I see this as a good thing. Now Reddit has to bear the cost. Even if they find replacement volunteers, some employee still has to make that happen. Likely several. It’s costing them. And that’s what the goal was. To weigh them down.
I was hoping every mod would walk away. All at once. Like you say you can run it all, there you go.
The only reason I go back to reddit is to copy/paste a modmail I wrote to those asking to get in. I end it with listing asking them to think about some Reddit alternatives and link the sites too. (I list: Lemmy.world, kbin.social, tildes.net and squabbles.io in that order)
The subreddit originally had three moderators but was replaced on Thursday with just one, ModCodeofConduct.
I’m guessing u/Modcodeofconduct is a bot.
Or a sellout
The comments on the post the mods made yesterday about discord are awful. “Get over yourselves,” “Spez owned you guys,” “Why would we go to Didcord, we chose Reddit.” They’re all from accounts that are 8+ years old that have never interacted on MFA or didn’t start commenting until Rexxit started.
They’re half right. Discord is a horrible platform. It’s idiotic most of these mods are suggesting it.
Discord is the best chat app ever created. (but I agree, it’s not a good reddit/forum replacement)
Yes it is.
But it’s a terrible forum app
It’s okay for private/semi-public group based chats. It’s not made for public threaded discussions.
It’s a horrible alternative for reddit.
Sure; it’s just so good at being a chat app that it makes a terrible forum.
My understanding is that it can be done and with a whole host of third party tools and bots and a little legion of mods - but that’s a ton of work both setup and ongoing, just to reshape Discord into the sort of format that Reddit or Kbin/Lemmy offer pretty much right out the box.
Sure, but probably the worst for community-forum style content. Links expire, information moves all over the place, no search indexing for engines, can’t view content if you aren’t in the server already, basically impossible to have discussions about anything older than the current day. It doesn’t work for a lot of use cases that reddit/lemmy do.
Agreed, and I never said it is a good reddit replacement. I think discord is lightyears ahead of previous platforms that it replaced like Ventrillo, Teamspeak, AIM, Whatsapp, ICQ, etc etc etc
But one of the worst for everything else it tries to be or people try to use it for, like help forums. It’s a black hole for information. They’ve taken steps to mitigate that, but it remains a half-baked solution.
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Absolutely not. And in no way is it a viable replacement for Reddit. Not now. Not ever.
I mean, it probably is the best chat app besides privacy. That is, unfortunately, not at all relevant to replacing Reddit.
It’s not a great replacement for a forum experience, a “I need to search for an answer to a specific question” experience, or anything like that.
But for the sense of community that people tended to identify with their favorite subs? I think it’s a pretty solid platform. Still has all the same issues regarding any centralized service run by a company, but that’s going to be the case for the vast majority of replacements until there’s a major paradigm shift across the world.
Oh yeah no, I don’t disagree that going to discord of all places is a horrible idea. I hate discord and I hate that people are trying to use it as community alternatives, but the real issue is the Reddit apologism.
Discord is good for live chat, but horrible for aggregation and public discussion. I mean that’s why most of us are here, because the platform works well for our needs. Supposedly Discord has a forum, but I’ve never seen a link to it on the regular site and from what I understand it doesn’t get much traffic. It’s simply not in a position to be an alternative to Reddit.
They probably manually created those users directly in the database.
Did you coin “Rexxit”? Because, it’s a thing of beauty.
It’s both current and prophetic… ;)
I agree it’s a great name, but I am still annoyed by it’s real world counterpart. I guess brexit was all about racism and corporate greed, while rexxit is the same but opposite.
Sadly I didn’t, it came about pretty early on.
Didnt another fashion subreddit open in lieu of this sub going down? Its been a few weeks since ive gone to reddit so i dont know
Props to the mods for sticking to their guns.
Who knew the strongest wills were in the male fashion industry.
Fashion is not for sissies
-Michael Kors
Once they learn patriarchy and PHDs, they could be kings of the real world.
But why male models?
Because they are the very model of a modern moderator.
… But why male models?
Are you serious? I just told you that a moment ago!
One might say they are the Pirates of Pinstripe Pants.
Great. Thanks. Not going to get that song out of my head again for another few days. 😑
Oh, sorry about that! Here, see if this helps:
Baby shark, doo-doo, doo-doo …
Daddy shark, doo-doo, doo-doo …
Mommy shark, doo-doo, doo-doo …
Definitely. The mods that pretended to give a damn and then punking out were extremely disappointing.
It’s fine enough to disagree with the protests over 3rd party apps. And at the end of the day it is such a small issue. But if you’re going to do something, be about it.
