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      your right. however it is fun to laugh, and sad to realise how much of an impact he can make

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        yep. The fact that lemmy is even needed goes to show how millionaires are never to be trusted.

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    This “definition of insanity” is nothing but a meme. It has no grounds wrt neurological or psychiatric science, and also isn’t directly related to any actual symptoms of insanity.

    “Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results” is actually the definition of training

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      I mean, Jeffrey Dahmer was universally considered insane and he didn’t “do the same thing over and over and expect different results”. He just killed and ate people over and over and expected them to taste good.

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      Idk, if you’re doing the same thing after your training that you were doing before, you either didn’t need training or you weren’t successfully trained.

      It’s an idiom, it’s not meant to be a clinical diagnosis. Like, yeah if you’re psychiatrist says it to you qnd tries to have you institutionalized, that’s obviously a problem. But I highly doubt that’s ever happened, certainly not in the modern age.

      Ultimately, it’s actually the same exact idea as “Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it,” but in less politically correct terms.

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        Absolutely not. “Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it” is actually correct. It’s an intelligent thing to say.

        On the other hand, “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results”, is both incorrect and harmful. It’s also, very dumb.

        Lemme elaborate:

        1. When you train, you are actually doing the same thing. What changes isn’t what you are doing, but how you are doing it. And you can change that, because what you are doing it with, changes. Your muscles get more mass, tone, endurance, speed, etc. Your brain creates new connections, etc.
        2. The definition of insanity is actually: “the loss of the ability to differentiate between facts, that can be empirically verified, and fiction, which cannot.”. It’s no mystery as to why the access of the masses to the Internet is causing worrying increases in the insanity the of average person. People are losing contact with reality. Literally.
        3. Doing the same thing over and over, without an appreciable difference in results, while obsessing over it, can be tangentially related to insanity, since a sane person would be able to recognize the lack of progress, but that is conflating causation and correlation, and is harmful enough in itself to be called “dumb”.
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          For the training, I’d argue that you’re not trying to get different results.

          Each time, the result is minor growth in whatever your goal is, be it strength, muscle mass, or endurance, etc.

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        Actually when you create a hypothesis and test it and prove it out, it is meant to be 100% repeatable by anyone following the metgod. Otherwise your method or hypothesis is wrong.

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          Right, but the reason you run the experiment repeatedly is to test the validity of the hypothesis. You’re looking for something different to happen. That’s the point behind rerunning the tests.

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            Right, but if you find a difference you alter the method or hypothesis, to get repearbility. An insane person (not neccessarily crazy person, but one that doesn’t follow sane rationalizarion) will keep repeating exact same thing.

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        While I’m at it, it’s the very logic at the basis of “monitoring” in computer science.

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          But also if you keep running the compiler without changing any of the code hoping for the errors to be magically gone, you are insane. So there’s the same logic being applied to insanity in computer science

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      Not to mention it’s always attributed to Albert Einstein which is not something he said and not something he would ever have said. Doesn’t stop people from continuing to invoke this “definition of insanity” as if its a smart thing to say.

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      You’re also in a meme community, commenting on a meme, so while technically correct, it’s not super relevant.

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      If you’re getting different results it’s because you’re adjusting something. That’s training.

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    At this point where he is basically stripping the site of its users (paid + limits) and branding (removing the twitter bird) why didn’t he just start up his own social media site and slow grow it instead of wasting money to pillage the competitor and then strip it of everything that made it what it was, i.e., the user base and the brand recognition?

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      He didn’t want twitter in the first place. He made some legally binding comments and was legally required to purchase it after meme-ing an offer and thinking he could get away with it lol. Now he’s suing the lawyers that made him buy Twitter.

      Musk is not a very smart man.

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        To be precise, he’s sueing the lawyers Twitter hired in the case to force him to buy, as Twitter paid them a bunch of money they weren’t legally obligated to pay, just before the purchase went through.

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          Weren’t legally obligated, that we know of. There could have been a fee paid at delivery of the deal being made, since that’s how this firm and the firm that Musk hired to sue the old firm charge. They keep the billable hours down in order to keep the price low unless they win and then there is normally a “winning fee”.

          Without context it makes it seem that the payment was out of left field when it was business as usually, especially since Musk didn’t want to actually go through with it.

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      Still astounding that after so many years Wayland is still inferior in a lot regards to X11. And by design will probably never be able to better in these regards

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    The brand with the bird and all was actually one of the more valuable parts of Twitter that he bought…

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    There are a lot of “that guys.” That guy who quotes Bob Dylan. That guy who wears crazy pants. That guy who’s good at ping-pong. And so forth. Decades ago, Elon Musk apparently decided to be That Guy Who Really Likes the Letter X. You do you.

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    I don’t quite understand the rage against this guy, imo he’s one of the more likeable and interesting billionaires in the world. At least he has visions and wants to change the world for the better, something you cannot say about Jeff Bezos or Mark Zuckerberg etc.

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      He’s a vocal transphobe and all around nasty piece of work, and he doesn’t want to change the world for the better - he wants to use that narrative to line his wallet for the better.

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      Reasons:

      He is a petty person; he called one of the divers saving Thai children a pedo, tried to get a lawyer fired for successfully suing him, is suing the firm which forced him to buy Twitter

      He fights unionization while tesla has safety and racism issues, and just look at spaceX on glassdoor

      His securities fraud, plus dogecoin pump and dump

      He dislikes mass-transit and blocks actually helpful transit ideas with Boring & Hyperloop

      And ofc his management of Twitter leaves much to be desired

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      He suggested that Ukraine should surrender to Russia and give up their Land. His own daughter hates him so much that she expressed in court that she doesn’t even want to inherit his money or be related to him in any shape or way. He cancelled the Tesla order of a blogger after the blogger said he was disappointed that Elon musk made a bunch of people wait for multiple hours without communicating anything. He is known as a bad boss that overworks his workers and pays then poorly. He has shown himself to be transphobic, ableistic, racist, ageist, hypocritical and a liar

      I like that guy. Very likeable.

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      He is an alt-right douche and it escapes me how him constantly being purposely antagonistic for fun lends to being “likeable”. The abhorrent political views would be enough, but there’s a lot more.