Summary
Elon Musk expressed support for Germany’s far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party on X, stating “Only the AfD can save Germany.”
Party leader Alice Weidel welcomed his endorsement, urging followers to review her criticisms of German politics.
The AfD, polling at 19% ahead of February’s federal election, is officially under scrutiny as an extremist group by German authorities.
Musk has previously questioned the party’s “far-right” label. Controversy surrounds the AfD, including links to a meeting discussing deportation of migrants.
So, has Musk straight up admitted to being a white supremacist or has he only dropped anvil-sized hints so far?
I mean this was pretty blatant:
Do you have a link?
I’m not going to go to Twitter, but here’s a news article.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-antisemitic-comments-x-post-actual-truth/
The rest of the world might need to bring the US to heel. We’re exporting hate and racism as a means to build fascist states around the world. Our rich are so rich and protected by the US military that they are becoming untethered from all remaining constraints about law and sovereignty for other countries.
Here be dragons.
Yeah it’s weird because you can both see Russia as an exporter of hate, but the US is on it too. I guess before late everyone will be on it.
Both want politics for the rich, but tell you that they act in your favor.
@MicroWave
He is just pissed because a Union just sued his Tesla Gigafactory in Grünheide, so he goes crying to the ones most likely to make the boo boo go away if given power.Musk has previously questioned the party’s “far-right” label.
Shut up Musk. Your countries political center (if it existed) would count as conservative in Germany.
Our political center is far right anywhere else. Democrats are right-leaning centrists and Republicans are literal Wolfenstein Nazis
Hey now dont insult the Nazis in Wolfenstein, they at least hated the Klan. Also at least one cared about his mecha dog, Hitler also shot an Arizonan which is the correct response.
shot an Arizonan which is the correct response.
Please don’t abuse Arizonans they already abuse themselves by attempting to live on the actual surface of the Sun.
I will stop abusing Arizonans when the lot of them learn to fucken drive. If ya go to California the speed limit is 10 above posted unless there is a cop ya uncivilized curs!
Hilariously Arizonans are super afraid of the CHP. In Arizona all you hear is they’ll get you for speeding too fast. So they will drive 95 all the way to the state border and then do the exact speed limit in California. It’s also fun in reverse. I lived in Northern Arizona for a while and every time it snowed the tourists from California and Southern Arizona had no clue what to do in it. So many cars in snow banks, just so many. Sometimes I feel like I’m the only person in the American Southwest that knows what to do in Sand storms, Blizzards, and Thunder storms.
I have trialed by fire for sand, snow, and thunderstorms. Though I also drive a Cherokee so snow and more specifically black ice is a pain regardless.
Bruh.
Is Germany gonna do the “Defensive” part of Defensive Democracy?
(Please ban AfD already)
I hear there are 3 or for 4 candidates for chancellor now one is a lesbian Nazi bitch living in Switzerland so no, no wehrhafte Demokratie.
All candidates are not well liked in terms of approval ratings so hooray 2025.
Realistically, it’s not gonna happen. There’s too much cowardice in our political system for that.
I feel like I remember hearing when AfD was getting less than the 5% (or whatever it is) minimum to be granted proportional seats. I knew they had grown in popularity, but they’re at 19% now. 19???!
They should have already banned them.
Meine Oma war 11 am Kriegsende, und hat mir natürlich viel von dir Geschichte persönlich erzählt.
For fucking shame. Honestly.
Makes me quite sad :( as an German Australian. And and as any human who’s been to school in the last 40 years.
When will humanity learn that capitalism is the problem, not the foreigners…?
The problem is, that the AfD slowly drifted from very conservative to far right, and for a pretty long time, they managed to seem sufficiently “bürgerlich” not to be legally extremist. It was perfectly clear that they were nazis, even years ago, but not provable.
Add to that the two unsuccessful attempts to ban the even more right and NPD. They were afraid to fail again.
Regarding the current 19%, Germany’s political, economic, and media system somehow paint itself into a corner. The politicians are largely out of ideas, they’re all fighting about petty conflicts, there’s hardly anything being done. Not that bad laws are enacted, nothing happens. The country runs on autopilot into a very obvious wall, and the politicians fight who can sit in the pilot’s seat. It’s a simulacrum.
The economic system is eroding away. The old German model doesn’t work anymore, and the old conglomerates just switched to subsidies and rent seeking, no investment, no changes. Volkswagen wants to scale back EVs in favor of ICEs.
The media are dominated by public access outlets, who are largely afraid to be critical, because someone could call them biased, and private media spreading hate for clicks.
So, Germany is currently in a pretty bad situation and many many people see that, but don’t see anyone actually doing anything about it. But because they are bombarded with hate, they choose AfD. Absolutely stupid decision, but these people just lost every bit of trust in the system. And honestly, I blame the system.
Thanks for the lengthy reply. Pity about the public broadcasters, it’s the same here in Australia. The ABC’s funding has been cut so much that they’re rarely properly critical of the government.
I, maybe naively, hold on to hope that we’ll be able to pull out of this global slide to the right without the horrors of last century.
Frohe Weihnachten :)
When will humanity learn that capitalism is the problem, not the foreigners…?
Nooo nnnnnoooo you seee it’s the people who (look different/speak different language/family came to the country later than your ancestors did) who are causing all your problems. Don’t look at Mr. Musk who has enough money to buy countries, or Mr. Kühne whose family company gladly helped do the logistics for the holocaust, while he doesn’t even pay taxes in Germany because he doesn’t believe in taxation.
AfD is cheering while the SPD’s thugs attack and arrest Jews calling for an end to Israeli terrorism.
Not lookin’ good
He seems to not mind if someone would cut a swastika into his forehead.
That’s low. Even for AfD.
It’s not surprising though. From what I’ve seen they are just Red Hats Deutschland Edition. Just need some altered merch and bam, Deutschlun’! MDWG!
Don’t the conservative bobbleheads talk about evil globalist conspiracies? Like, I found it right here for you guys! It was right in front of you the whole time!
In case you are unaware, when a racist says “globalist” they are not talking about worldwide events, the word “globalist” is a direct replacement for the word “Jew [derogatory]”.
Huh, guess I missed that dog whistle. I thought it was just the opposite of a “nationalist”, people who want to create a new world order and all that.
I guess I’m not surprised they think it’s the Jewish people doing that, but didn’t think it was exclusive to them.
It’s a bit of both. They (often) think globalism is being pushed by the jews for the sake of… jews gaining power? The reason tends to change from person to person, but the point is they often think globalism is a Jewish plot.
Can’t say that I’m surprised. Both are pro-RuSSian trolls and just absolute morons in general, but it’s still pretty interesting, because the AfD absolutely hates EVs and prefers RuSSian oil imports. I honestly think that Musk just isn’t aware of their EV politics, and it makes all of this so much funnier 😂
Elon’s actually come out against EV subsidies. It seems counter intuitive until you realize he’s so detached from any one product that the power he’s derived from his wealth is more important now.
At this point it’s not about the money, it’s about
THE METS BABY!It’s about feeling like he’s in charge. At this point he’s so drunk on attention and power that he’d order a nuclear strike on his own daddy’s Emerald Mines if he thought it’d make him look like a big man.
Tesla sells their EVs as technical avantgarde and elitist sports cars. When EVs become commonplace, they’ll face serious competition. People won’t be content with their mediocre build quality and terrible ergonomics any longer. Musk countering EV subsidies is deeply based in reality.
In semi-related news, the defences around the German Constitutional Court were just reinforced.
Meanwhile Tesla sales are down in Europe 28% despite an increase in overall EV sales.
For the month maybe, but its possible imports are gonna be higher in December for various shipping reasons. Monthly numbers aren’t always good indicators and have always been used to attack Tesla even when they were growing, not to say it might not be a preview of whats to come either. It’s around 15% YTD.
Tesla Europe sales also down 14% year-to-date.
That’s what I said.
Oh you meant it was down YTD. I was confusing you with one of the Tesla defenders who are claiming record growth.
I mean maybe they have record growth for a month or two in a very specific region, like this one really bad month in the EU but ya not happening this year. It’s gonna take a huge Q4 push to not be down globally YTD but maybe they’ll squeak a tiny tiny growth out.
No, no, no, no, no, no!
Elon: “Why are they considered far-right? They don’t look far-right to me!”
Also Elon: ⬅️-----------------------------🙋➡️
It’s pretty much comes down to
Do they support trans people and trans rights?
Yes: Woke mind virus.
No: TAKE MY MONEY!
That’s why he’s in right wing politics now, he’s said as much. His trans daughter, who he dead names, was “stolen” from him.
I highly doubt that he ever had a real connection to his children in the first place.
Well, he did use one of his kids as a human shield repeatedly when appearing in public after Luigi crossed one of their guys off the board. That’s kind of a connection?
She said he was pretty absent ya.
As a believer in Horseshoe Theory (Just hang around a tankie long enough, you will too)
I’m really hoping these people somehow wrap around to being left… I mean that won’t happen because the Horseshoe only bends one way, but damn.
Nationalists sometimes wrap around to left.
Moderator warning: calling for Elon Musk or anyone else to be assassinated is a violation of Lemmy.world ToS.
calling for Elon Musk or anyone else to be assassinated
Yeah but we can discuss it without saying it should happen, right? (not trying to be a dick about this, honestly)
Yes. That is fine. There’s a difference between saying “this sort of thing could lead to Elon being killed” and “Elon deserves a bullet in the head.” The issue is with the latter, which has been a big problem in this thread. It is not legal to do that in the Netherlands, where the server is based.
Thanks, Flying Squid. I appreciate the clarification.
No problem. I’m always happy to clarify such things.
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So it begins… Reddit 2.0
Just hop to another instance that doesn’t have the same difficulties as .world. Reddit 2.0 on Lemmy requires us to be compliant.
Or that user could just set up his own instance and face all the possible liability issues himself.
Exactly. A large portion of the .world user base is from North America and doesn’t realize .world isn’t based on the United States.
There was a time where the US were shooting Nazis instead of putting them in charge. Is it really bad to wish those times came back?
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