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    Kudos to the person who is sending the correct message. Everyone who believes in protecting the US Constitution should fly the US flag upside down.

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      I think we need to do more than that. The flag is a distress signal. We have to help the people who are distressed

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    That seems like a very bad sign. Someone wanted a message to get out to the public, but I’m not entirely sure what can be effectively done about it. Credit to the person with the balls to send out the warning, though.

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      I’m not entirely sure what can be effectively done about it.

      History offers no control groups; there is no “right” way to proceed. What’s certain is that “nothing” is not the answer.

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        Maybe we should double down on capitalism again.

        It’s the only move the US has used in living memory.

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      There’s nothing that can be done. Republicans have every bit of power there is. At least for the next two years.

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        This is the message of the enemy. I am not sure what there is to be done, but to say this:

        There’s nothing that can be done.

        is to give up. The only thing that we ordinary people can know is that the democratic party is unable/unwilling to form an effective resistance right now.

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          I know how anyone could organize something so large, But a mass strike/walkout would have more impact than anything else right now.

          None of the common people go in to work until shit stain “abdicates”

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            Ya seem to not gwt what he is saying, let me make it damn simply. The Tree of Liberty is watered by the blood of tyrants and patriots alike, and Freedom is earned through the barrel of a gun.

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          This is a strong reason why I would think it would be a tactical error to mess with the elections. Elections are the pressure valve that people are willing to wait for. You can do so much harm and all is forgiven if you step down after an election loss.

          Take away that mechanism, and you put all your leadership at huge risk, for minor benefit (history has shown they can get their way like 90% of the time anyway, the “left” will barely even say anything about their material goals and let them stand).

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    The State is in distress. Who will answer the call? Who will come it’s aid? We have all been summoned.

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      Definitely. Do we know if the people who wanted a criminal moron in charge are still cheering him on, or are they starting to catch on to the fact that his plan always was to thoroughly fuck everyone over? Well, everyone but his clique.

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        Everyone just giving their opinion but the answer is mixed. Some regret, many don’t. And it’s not just disinformation, people have to deal with their own cognitive dissonance. Just on the radio earlier was an Arab man still defending vote for Trump because “it’s just rhetoric” right now. He’s willing to say it’s terrible rhetoric, but won’t come to terms with the vote being a bad decision.

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          As long as the right people get hurt they’re happy.

          Republicans would shit their own pants just to make us smell it.

          They’re gonna be a lot less happy when they try putting armed citizens in camps and they get fucking shot.

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            Time has shown that these motherfuckers don’t even care if “the right people get hurt”

            As long as there is hurt, and their preferred propaganda machine tells them, they’re happy.

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        They’re completely caught in the misinfo and still cheering him on. Anyone getting hurt must have deserved it and if they’re getting hurt it just shows how important it is to hurt the others back.

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        The majority did not vote for this. The majority of voters didn’t even vote for this. He only won a plurality (<50%)

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          He got the support of all the people who voted for him and all the people who didn’t vote against him.

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            Lucky the USA allows everyone to vote no matter what; doesn’t schedule it for a standard workday, meaning nobody has to choose between feeding their kids and voting; plans out enough polling stations so that people don’t have to wait for hours without access to food, water, or seating; doesn’t surprise deregister voters with little notice; and sends out absentee ballots reliably with sufficient time to return them…

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              Georgia had both mail-in absentee voting and, especially, 2 weeks of early voting including on weekends. In most places the early voting lines weren’t terribly long. On election day most places were short.

              Most people still didn’t vote.

              Some people couldn’t vote. Millions of assholes just didn’t bother and are partly to blame.

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          No vote. No opinion.

          He got the majority of votes. He got the majority of the electoral.

          The majority of participating voters wanted this.

          Just because you guys cannot fathom how anyone would want this doesn’t mean this is the same panic inducing situation for them. The majority of politically active people in the United States of America wanted this to happen as evidence of the election we just held.

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            No. He got a plurality of the votes. Not a majority.

            The majority of participating voters voted against him.

            How many times do you need that repeated to understand?

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                Outdated data. The votes were not done being counted on November 10th. Trump got 49.8% to Harris’ 48.3%

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                  Ah. Fair enough. Last time I had seen it it was more than 50% still. Well then by a technicality not a majority then. I do love a technically correct statement so I’ll give you that one.

                  Still. More people voted for this than didn’t vote for this.

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    Performative resistance from inside the machine. Cute gesture, but distress signals only work when someone’s actually coming to help. Meanwhile, career diplomats keep writing memos and processing visas while posting their quiet protests on social.

    Remember when we thought these symbols meant something would change? Now it’s just content for the outrage cycle. Tomorrow there’ll be a strongly worded letter, maybe some resigned LinkedIn posts from mid-level FSOs.

    The machinery keeps grinding, upside down flag or not. Though I suppose watching institutional despair go viral is peak 2025.

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            Oddly, the recent thing in LA was via TikTok, but to be fair their knee bending is probably superficial at best.

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            It really makes me wonder how people were able to pull this shit off in the 50s, 60s and 70s when we can’t make it happen today with everything available to us.

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              They still had third places where they could organize face-to-face. Think union halls, fraternal organizations (which us Millennials only know about from old cartoons), churches, etc.

              See also this Adam Conover video, which isn’t specifically about organizing to protest but nevertheless is pretty insightful about it.

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              they didn’t use maligned, monitored areas for communication… people today should coordinate face-to-face or at worst via telephone if they haven’t already exposed themselves.

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          Based on white people Twitter ban this is similar to Luigi situation…

          People are just overwhelming their modding ability.

          It will be taken down and the opposition sentiment will be supressed in due course.

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      The house has been burning and smoking for hours and people are still thinking that the fire just started

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    This has happened in México too, the most famously recorded one was during Enrique Peña Nieto’s term (sorry for linking to YT). They said the flag thing was an accident, but it was during the Flag Day and everyone was angry with the way the government was handling things. The government-influenced media was angry with the military because “they made a mistake”, but we all knew why it happened.

    https://youtu.be/cwW9X_GBtco

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    1. Is this real
    2. What does it mean?
    3. Where are we in terms of worrying? Should I begin to start to think about worrying or something more urgent?
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      #3 depends where you are on the hit list I suppose. I’m trans, so I’m well past worry-o-clock and am actively making arrangements to leave the country. Someone like a cishet white male tech worker has a lot less to worry about though

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      1. I see little reason to doubt it
      2. It means whoever hoisted it considers there to be a crisis, which is consistent with accounts of public offices being overtaken by random young white men who are rapidly taking control.
      3. Speaking as a non-American political scientist having worked a little with rule of law and fascism, it seems a bit late to start worrying. Think about what you can do for yourself, your neighbours, and your country, urgently or in the longer term. It’s going to be ugly for a while.
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      1. I think so.

      2. That’s unclear but my take is that this is an expression of the distress felt by the employees, and perhaps the only possible outlet for their feelings. I suspect that it’s more likely the action of one or two people rather that some kind of collectively approved signal.

      3. I just don’t know. I’m not even American but I feel very discombobulated.

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    There’s only one way this gets stopped. And the people that would need to do it think they’ll have a ‘prime minister’ title when the dust settles and not that they’ll be chucked out a window. It’s some weapons grade stupid and apathy letting this happen and they’re just hoping that god king chooses to keep them around it’s all so pathetic

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    Wasn’t the upside down us flag thing used by j6’ers? Are the line workers taking it back as the symbol of a stolen country for themselves, or is this Musk and crew indicating we’re fucked?

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      It’s a sign of distress.
      They were distressed, but it’s only because they’re sore losers and couldn’t cope with Trump losing.
      This is actual distress, it’s appropriate this time.

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      Its nothing exclusive to J6. Its an international sign that an insurrection or coup has occurred or is occurring.

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        Not quite, it’s an international sign that a vessel is in distress.

        Then mostly right wing lunatics co-opted it to mean that our country is in distress.

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          Which they co-opted from protesters in the 60’s, rallying against the Vietnam war, which they co-opted from the Revolutionary war, where (allegedly, much harder to source), the revolutionaries also flew the Union Jack inverted. Its history to mean insurrection in the US is as old as the US.

          Its been used in many other instances internationally, and yes, also at sea with a much deeper history to signal distress. Regardless, the pedantry is both technically and figuratively misplaced.

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            which they co-opted from the Revolutionary war, where (allegedly, much harder to source), the revolutionaries also flew the Union Jack inverted.

            If they did, I assume a half dozen vexillology enthusiasts with good eyesight got very concerned.

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          international

          How does that work for a ship from a country like Cuba?

          Do they hang it backward? I.e. With the red arrow pointing toward the pole?

          What about Japan?