Hmmmmmm… rational national looks suspiciously like our guy. they sure they have the right man? =p

also who cares? everyone has flaws.

of which there are numerous in this case.

Wrong person mate. Unless you meant to completely change the context of the conversation.

Neither of us were talking about financial crimes. I was very explicitly countering your narrative that planned murders are easy to decree as a danger to society vs accidental; and therefore somehow less ambiguous/ simpler.

in this case planned murder is tricky. because the person they killed is directly responsible for orders of magnitude more deaths and the government was unwilling to lock them up for everyone’s safety.

Actually its closer to capital punishment. of course it isn’t good for anyone. but you know what else is even worse for everyone? the policies this man personally implemented unnecessarily causing death, pain, and hardship to millions. which hilariously is more similar to your examples of genocide/chemical weapons.

he is the type of person you remove (with prejudice) from your environment asap.

yes, which is why threats that are backed up with actions are far more persuasive.

Who the fuck are you talking about. who do you think the progressive mouth pieces are? literally most of the progressives in congress didnt like biden. its like your confusing the neoliberals dems (who control the party) with people like AOC.

Its not rational to hold to a position that was empirically shown to be false. remember the askes were mostly: stop being a cunt to palestintians, stop shipping weapons to genocidal regimes, and have policies that actually help american workers. like committing to ms khan, maybe a fucking min wage increase, maybe a single payer option, restoration of various corporate tax policies we’ve gutted regan.

but sure keep blindly carrying water for a dead party. thats definitely rational.

imagine thinking ‘don’t genocide’ is playing hard to get. also:

talk about delusions. remind me what disaffected republican voters. reminder: you’re party lost and hard because they’re trash at least the republicans give their voters what they want someone to blame.

Yeah but had harris done the correct thing and disowned biden’s policies (critically around israel and corporate water carrying) and been a decent human being and supported working americans. biden wouldn’t have been able to impact shit.

Oh I showed up and voted. you’re not some special snowflake. just didnt vote for harris or trump. get better candidates next time and maybe we’ll support your shit party. You know maybe people who dont shit on a minority group being murdered by our policies their entire campaign, or immediately try to through lgbt+ groups under the bus immediately following their loss. Maybe someone who also supports policies beneficial towards the working class.

You know, basic fucking human decency. if you want safety for yourself you need to support safety for others. which dems clearly don’t. Next time you spout ‘blue no matter who’ or other such nonsense to defend your preferred parties candidate remember: you need to actually give people reasons to vote for your candidate. things you may not personally agree with.

It’s part of America’s foreign policy, which means there’s literally nothing we can do about.

incorrect we did exactly what we needed to do. we fired him for it (among other reasons). unfortunately harris didn’t pick up on the message and as a result also wasnt hired as a result. enjoy your fascism.

No offense, but Harris more than capably tanked her own campaign by being as milquetoast as biden when it comes to supporting the working class.

That was the point, he didn’t. he used it selfishly for his son. which is understandable. but we’re mocking him for it because he didn’t use it to do anything useful. Which coincidentally is also why we didn’t want to keep him or harris as president.

You see thats the problem, you didn’t bring shoes. you literally spread the glass. bringing shoes would have meant having policies that would actually help working americans.