“Also the bit about usury being illegal, that’s over now.”

UK and Irish sports chants are God tier compared to Americans.

Those are like K or L cups lol.

Tit loans please.

Can I loan a pair of DD’s for a few weeks. I’d like to see how they suit me.

“Hi, I’m Gabe”

Isn’t linked?

That’s just wrong. Correlation is a link. The long term high dose use of any CNS depressant correlates with actual depression (the psychological issue [I added the brackets because you seemed to miss when I specified the difference earlier.])

Oh wow, an anecdotal story, well that just proves what you’re saying is 100% correct.

Science couldn’t possibly disagree

“Pure” psychedelics like LSD and psilocybin rarely cause any sort of abuse, really, but I’ve been on a drug abuse closed ward and the manic people were generally in there because of CNS stimulants of all sorts. Psychedelics are just less likely to yield any long-lasting harmful effects compared to say smoking crack or snorting meth.

So yeah, while a CNS depressant isn’t the a thing that directly causes psychological depression as such, you can probably see how they’re linked from the following analogy; imagine that I tie your legs together. That doesn’t remove your ability to walk, per se, as long as you remove the restraints. But if no-one removes them for 50 years, do you think you’d walk as well as before?

In much the same way, yes, CNS depressants are linked to depression, and alcohol and benzos are the clearest examples.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8238014/#:~:text=Studies have reported that prolonged,medications for non-pain symptoms.

https://americanaddictioncenters.org/alcohol/risks-effects-dangers/depression#:~:text=Alcohol can not only lead,reducing or stopping alcohol use.

Abuse of any psychoactive drug on the regular leads to depression.

That’s a biased generalisation.

While abusers of psychedelics are rare, they’re generally manic and psychotic moreso than depressed.

Yes, depression can be caused by any addiction and abusing stims can cause a lack of neurotransmitter due to exhausting the resources for the body to do so.

It’s a bit different than using something that’s a direct depressant though.

Alcohol is a depressant my man.

Neurologically speaking, so in a different context, yeah, but neurological depression also seems to lead to actual depression, the mood disorder, which also show up as neurological depression.

We really need better imaging tools to measure neurotransmitter activity, would make for several advancements I’d say

You would’ve loved to get French fries instead of the Dutch reach, wouldn’t you?

Unfair how those potatoes are linguistically attributed to the French, no?

Bring back the gestapo already.

You forgot the “/s”. Please, it’s important in these times.

Just saw that yesterday and so I did too. (think of it that is)

Same.

It seems as childish as toddlers having broken something by throwing it forcefully on the floor and then pretending that they don’t understand why the thing broke.

Laws don’t dictate the use of language, people do.

It just so happens that when you don’t have buds, it’s hard to find instances in which to use “bud”, and because even when I started, you needed to make sure it’s actually bud, not just some trim, grass, weed.

Marijuana is the loaded term. Cannabis is a scientific one.

I’m sure you learned why the favoured word for cannabis shifted from “weed” to “bud”.

Because due to cannabis growing culture, actual buds started appearing on the plants. I much prefer the “ruined hybrids (all of which have ruderalis in them)” which grow actual colas than trying to fit a badly growing sativa inside when it requires like double the heigh of a normal room, and still won’t make actual colas.

The fact that you have access to cannabis rn is very likely because of the amazing cannabis industry we have.

Are there shit seed banks? Sure.

Is it all of them? Fuck no. Not even a majority, or even a significant minority.

It’s ridiculous to argue that “there’s ruderalis in everything” when seedbanks still have genomes that have been going on since before autoflowers were even a thing.

“Plenty of guys have room for a 12 foot plant”

Why are you using bodyparts to measure things? And no, most people don’t have room for plants which exceed room height, make little to no bud and a ton of waste.

Did you skip over the image I linked? That’s cannabis 50 years ago. I myself am familiar with what’s happened over the last 20 years.

Excluding the tendency of seed banks to stop selling regular seeds so as to protect their genomes, I honestly don’t know what about is in any way “a travesty.”

I grow photoperiods but live very far north. Light leaks should by your logic herm cannabis for me, because it’s “so unstable”.

But they don’t. Not even when I’m nowadays a rather lazy grower and they’re definitely stressed, and often.

Hell, rn I’ve a revegged plant in flower, it survived accidentally (forgot one bud on it), it’s roots we’re entirely rotted, etc etc, and it still hasn’t hermed.

Not to mention it’s from a feminised seed. If you have problems with cannabis herming, then it’s most likely that you just have shitty seeds. Order some regular seeds and sex them yourself and they definitely won’t be nearly as “unstable” as feminised seeds. (In quotes because a majority of them aren’t.)

I’ve grown for ~15-17 years.

Genotype stability.

“Everything’s been hybridised to shit and everything has ruderalis in it”

Well you’re clearly exaggerating. But yes, pretty much all strains are hybrids. And why wouldn’t they be? Getting growth properties from indica is almost a must since who the hell has the space to grow an actual sativa, like a three meter tall tree with airy specks for buds.

This is what “bud” looked like in the 70’s, and that probably explains why it used to more commonly known as “weed” than “bud”.

So yeah, the variety and quality of the strains we have is nothing short of amazing.

I’m calling the genetics stable, be they what they are.

Compared to other plants, does cannabis herm easily? Well I’ve not grown anything else as much, so hard to say, but my plants very rarely herm. Meny plants are completely self-pollinating, so there’s not really an issue to why it would be inherently bad.

Herming is more common nowadays when all seeds are feminised, meaning they were produced by a female plant which was pollinated by another female plant that was made to herm.

Despite being made in that manner, most of my femmed seeds never produce any pollen sacs.

“Finicky plant”?

Have you ever grown anything else? Compared to a whole bunch of houseplants or even commercial crops, cannabis is remarkably resilient to all sorts, temperature and humidity fluctuations, fluctuations in the availability of nutrients, etc.

How so?

Compare to any other major crop, and the variation and stability we have in cannabis strains is quite fucking amazing.

Compare to say strains of banana or some cerial. Monocrops, no variation, sickly, etc.

I started getting into cannabis around 2007 or so and back then there were no autoflowering strains. Lowryder was just coming out. Now 15+ years later pretty much most strains have an autoflowering version and making one is not too challenging. The autoflowering gene has been so well isolated that it’s trivial for a proper seedbank to cultivate whatever af strains they think of.

Although there’s so much competition nowadays that people are guarding their genetics far more than before. Regular seeds used to be available for all strains. Now it’s feminised available for all strains and regular only for older and cheaper strains. Can’t make genetically stable seeds if you have to try to propagate from an already feminised seed.

So yeah I don’t know how it’s “a travesty” honestly.