Yeah, but people are still using a browser originally made by an homophobic guy. Shame on them! /s

Brave is managed by Brendan Eich who had to leave Mozilla because he is a homophobe.

Eich was a cofounder of Mozilla. Wasn’t him an homophobe back then? Did someone stopped using FF because Mozilla’s cofounder was an homophobe?

And, frankly speaking, I couldn’t care less about him or his believing. I need a good browser. Brave is a good browser (better than Firefox, for me). The day I find something better, I’ll migrate. Full stop.

That and they have been doing some selfserving things with BAT to the point where I wouldn’t trust them even if BAT became something worthwhile or maybe even especially then.

Again, the whole BAT thing is opt-in and it’s not the point here.

No, I don’t agree. The loss was net, I mean 50M users migrated, the same users that before installed FF over the default browser. Something happened there.

Can we blame Mozilla for losing some users? Yeah, maybe a few. But that’s not really the whole picture.

50M (and counting) was 20% of their user base, not “some users”. There’s nothing wrong in admitting that Mozilla erratic development model has alienated at least some of “us” (by the way, I’ve been a FF user for almost 20 years before leaving). And, personally, I’ll make whatever I can to make more users leave FF. Fuck Mozilla, really. They’re just a cash-grab machine right now.

Crypto on Brave is disabled by default. The FTP support was just an example. The last straw for me was the idiotic UI “refreshement”. I’m not touching that thing. And yes, I know UI on FF can be tuned using CSS, but I’ve no time, nor the will to fix Mozilla’s fuckups. It’s not like there’s a shortage of browsers out there.

Please, feel free to engange to show me that I’m wrong.

Yeah, keep downvoting. 50M (and counting) users lost since 2019 are surely a proof of how well Mozilla roadmap for FF is working.

Ah, jeez, it was just a joke.

Or maybe, just maybe, it lags behind because Mozilla decided that their priorities are ruining the UI and to remove features.

YSK that donations to Mozilla don’t go to FF developement (which is done by Mozilla Corp.), but are used by Mozilla Foundation for… other things:

https://donate.mozilla.org/en-US/faq/

How will my donation be used? At Mozilla, our mission is to keep the Internet healthy, open, and accessible for all. To learn how your donation is put to use, click here.

You can find more details about Mozilla’s expenditures and governance here.

Don’t Mozilla products, like Firefox, earn income? Firefox is maintained by the Mozilla Corporation, a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation. While Firefox does produce revenue — chiefly through search partnerships — this earned income is largely reinvested back into the Corporation. The Mozilla Foundation’s education and advocacy efforts, which span several continents and reach millions of people, are supported by philanthropic donations.

It is funny to me how the first link doesn’t actually tell you how you money is used, but just points to Mozilla Foundation home page.

In short, if you donate expecting that your money helps Firefox, you’re doing it wrong.

Oh, look, THAT meme. Again. For the100th time.

Folks, I don’t care what under the hood. Brave serves me much better than Firefox did. And, frankly speaking, “not being chromium” isn’t enough anymore. Mozilla has ruined Firefox for me when they started removing features (e.g., FTP support) and dumbing its UI/UX. So, goodbye FF, it’s been a long ride, but I’m on Brave right now.

• “Can you run on this 20 y/o piece of hardware?”
• Linux: “hold my beer!”