I’m providing a best guess on that. I may be wrong. Who knows maybe it’ll be “xtxt” or xt^2 pronounced “extasy.”

I have no problem paying if I have the option. If they want more than it’s worth, buh bye… If not I’ll pay. What I don’t need is being forced to swallow their pollution to get access to needed information.

Right up until Twitter shut everything off unless you were logged in and throttled you if you are logged in I’d have agreed with you… YouTube is preventing you from watching YouTube if they decide they can’t advertise at you… The point is, big social media has come up with creative ways to make using their service miserable if not impossible. Even reddit is doing it right? I find your assessment of possible versus likely incomplete at best.

This argument is absurd. What happens, right now, if Reddit shuts down? Where can you take your account to access what’s on Reddit?

The fact is federations CAN be set up this way. Lemmy is new and the people providing the service are working to get things functional as fast as possible. Federating authentication is possible. Can you do it right this second? Nope.

Can you do it with Reddit right this second?

“I’m not gonna do this because it doesn’t work the way I think it should.” News flash, Reddit doesn’t work that way either, while you’re not doing it on Reddit…. Lemmy CAN work that way, Reddit… yah good luck.

I get it, mediocrity now is better than improvements later…

Glad to be of service.

Glad to be of service.

Did I not mention being responsible for injuries? Your absolutely right, but you’re not correct…

Well, your screen name seems appropriate ;) Thank you.

Okay. Thank you or your time. I’m just trying to identify if I have a user that is harassing people or something.

Thank you for the clarification. The problem I have is:

Note that dbzer0 on the federation-checker.vercel.app shows we are being blocked. fba.ryona.agency shows that too, and apparently we are edgelords,don’t moderate, and have done something wrong with free speech…

So something somewhere is broken…

So these lists are both block AND allow lists? Or are they just allow lists?

The problem is, this isn’t just a challenge to beliefs. This is the internet. The darkest most depraved shit that can exist… does. People forcing children to do things with animals… I’ll stop there…

The U.S. constitution supports free speech. Even it has limits. You can’t yell fire in a movie theater and not face the consequences of injuries your speech causes.

The problem with these lists is that people sneak things on to them.

I’m an admin on (and owner of) lemmy.ninja. We have clear anti-harassment rules, up front, in bold, front page. We have zero bots (checked daily). We have users that are LGBTQIA+. I have zero tolerance for bigotry.

Yet our site is on the lists provided.

Apparently it doesn’t matter (the lists don’t work) because all of my cross posts (from my boomer shooter community) are available on beehaw.org in their gaming section.

So these lists can be used as weapons, if they work. When thy don’t work they are just an indictment without evidence.

It’s cute how you think I’m going to take legal advice from you. You do you, have a nice evening.

I’m basing what I have said off of work I have done with attorneys in similar situations. I don’t know evidentiary law, but I wouldn’t want to be accused of destroying evidence of something. But my question stands. Why should someone who has doxed someone get away with it by deleting their account? How is that ethical?

That’s a hard question to answer. My position is based on where I live and what legal council I have worked with has said in situations I’ve dealt with. My recommendation is, check with an attorney.

I’m at a loss. You’re saying that things that you said publicly are private? Or you’re saying that they become private because you delete your account? Assume you dox someone. I need to find out if that happened. As an admin I’d be able to see that

1. you
2. publicly posted
3. their data

I would need to be able to provide this to authorities if they provided needed legal documentation. Why do you think that privacy dictates you should be able to commit a crime, and get away with it by deleting your account?

At this point, I’m not certain anymore. Luckily all the accounts use values that are easy to identify them. I’ll figure out how to remove them. Sorry for the false alarm work.