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  • agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.comtoMemes@lemmy.mlSure Doesn't feel like one.
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    And my point remains, when it comes to service members and LEOs, even Frances gun laws wouldnt stop this case. In fact, take the number of Cop and Military shooters, adjust per capita then compare the stats, because yall keep trying to derail my points about the well regulated militia stuff.

    The point is that it happens 100 times more in the USA than in any other developed country

    well since it happend twice in 3 years in france im assuming you have data for 70 yearly US LEO or Military member committed mass shooting yeah? Or are you gonna keep veering away from what ive actually been arguing this whole time again?


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    The comment you replied to it literally proof that this incident would still and does still happen in France. This whole time I’ve specifically been speaking about those that would be considered to be in a well regulated militia because that phrase is meaningless, as shown. French gun laws wouldn’t stop this, the only country argument is moot here, because we’re literally not the only country whos LEOs and military go on rampages.


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    A French cop went on a mass shooting in 2017. In 2020 an ex soldier in france went on a shooting. Sure it wasn’t this year but acting like this doesn’t happen elsewhere is wild. In fact the chances that the shooter is in a well regulated legal organization are higher elsewhere since the other people dont even have guns like that. So I assume Frances gun laws are a problem for you too since they cant stop their Law Enforcement from doing this?


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    Between active and reservists there are well over one million national guard memebers. The crimes of one of them hardly imply that the regulation is not good. Mistakes are possible, and considering he was let out of the psych hospital is it impossible to think the mistake even could have come from the profit driven org who makes the absolute thinniest proft margins from mental health care? What about the police, did they not also drop the ball, they could have seen this coming, this person was known publicly for his gun lust and extremism. Or is all the blame only on the one orginazation that makes your opinions the most correct looking?



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    The National Guard is not well regulated? Im gonna wager your definition of well regulated is a body in which nothing bad ever happens, which is not what well regulated means, that’s called perfection.

    If the national guard isnt considered well regulated then nothing is, and clearly the writers of the bill didnt intend for ‘well regulated’ to be an impossible standard. So if well regulated is going to mean something it didnt mean from the authors then that phrase no longer has bearing on the right, and shockingly enough the US Judicial system agrees with and upheld that.

    This was a shooting by a member of a well regulated milita. That phrase or organization structure is not a magic spell that stops crime. The authors would have written ‘crime free’ instead of well regulated if that’s what they meant.



  • Marx is spinning in his grave, of course they are. You don’t need to be a communist to read his book. Its called Capital, its almost entirely about capitalism, and much of the critique AND techniques he used for the critique (Dialectics) have become foundational in other aspects of modern society. They should make people read this in school, the only communist teacher I ever had in college made us young lefties who signed up read Milton Friedman and John Smith FIRST. The baby daddies of capitalism, and we did because not knowing only makes us dumber. Why are we dead set on not making ourselves smarter? Remember when General Milley said even he’s read Marx, there’s reasons for that.



  • The lack of laws around weapon storage are wild. As a part of gun culture I can tell you in the US the gun culture around you is going to determine how safe the area is from guns, and in no small part due to storage habbits that somehow come down to the culture rather than the law. When I see divisions between red and blue state gun crime, it makes intament sense to me having seen how gun culture is in each place. Even the conservatives in liberal areas are generally more careful with weapons than the conservatives in area where they are the majority. Advertising is another problem that imo is a massive contribution to the negative aspects of US gun culture. Not many outside of the culture would see this but if you go to a web site that sells gun accessories and buy something, just wait for the bonkers catalogue they send you in the mail later. For me it looked like a mall ninjas paradise, with just enough inflammatory marketing to not be punished for it, and if we can’t reign that in as well I fear all we will be doing is chnging what type of gun the next shooting will be done with.


  • I understand why it seems strange that the Military has stricter regulations on weapons than civilians but honestly thats a good thing to me. Not saying the level of rules on civilians is fine the way it is, however soldiers are quite literally tools of and representative of the US government, what they do, the US government does, or at the very least is accountable for. Often times what they are doing they are doing to citizens (or soldiers) of other countries as well. A random US citizen doesn’t represent the government, but an active soldier is very much representetive of theirs. From the governments POV its like self preservation.