• spongebue@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    And what history does NATO have of using their arms for offensive purposes, rather than defense?

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      6 months ago

      A really big history… Take a peak at what countries are in nato and realize they have a long history of being directly in conflict with Russia/Soviet Union.

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          6 months ago

          Or directly fighting them and having a 40 year long cold war. Maybe most of those countries have been in direct war with russia in recent memory.

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            6 months ago

            Or maybe Ukraine isn’t the aggressor here and Putin is proving why Ukraine wants to be in NATO

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              6 months ago

              Ukraine is not the aggressor, I never said it was. What I will say is that this was was 100% preventable with the promise that Ukraine would not join nato. It was a known red line, and it was crossed. “BUT UKRAINE CAN DO WHAT IT WANTS!!!” Great, and NATO can directly say we dont want a conflict and we dont want Ukraine to be a part because we know it is a line that will likely trigger a war.