If you ask me, I’m upset no one picked up that this consideration was sexist and racist, although it is indeed the best choice for her to win, which reflects how bad US can’t get over race and gender.

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    it’s a catch 22 situation where you can’t have two minority picks because ostensibly, that would be DEI, but specifically picking a white guy for DEI is ostensibly not DEI because you’re picking the best candidate for the role.

    i don’t really think it’s any deeper than the fact that tim walz was literally the perfect pick, he just happens to be white. I’m not sure you would be able to find an equally beloved and respected pick other than him.

    like, just so we’re on the same page here, it’s not a bad thing that she picked a white guy, it quite literally broadens and diversifies her running, i believe she also wants to appoint more diverse office candidates as well, so we’ll probably see less white people there inevitably.

    at the end of the day, it is what it is. You push for diversity in picking someone like Kamala, you also have to do the same thing for white people as well. It’s all strategic at the end of the day, they wouldn’t have done it if it didn’t make any sense.

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      I don’t know man…sometimes politics DO do things that doesn’t make sense.

      In fact, most of politics these past 8 years have left me scratching my head.

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        this is true, politics and bureaucracy is weird.

        to be fair, most of the last 8 years have been primarily due to trump being actually insane though. Outside of that, it’s uh. Ok.

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      it’s a catch 22 situation where you can’t have two minority picks because ostensibly, that would be DEI, but specifically picking a white guy for DEI is ostensibly not DEI because you’re picking the best candidate for the role.

      But that is basically where everything is wrong with America. America is obsessed with gender and race

      The fact that gender or race play any factor of consideration for a job that is not pushing out a baby or being an Asian model (for example), race and gender should mean nothing

      You only ever hear “I want the best person for the job” when a non white non male is chosen. Basically if it’s a white male, the assumption is he is probably ok for the job

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        But that is basically where everything is wrong with America. America is obsessed with gender and race

        is it though? The only reason we’re here is because someone had a shower thought, and people proposed that it was probably more significant that it really is quite forwardly.

        Also this is just true for most things in the world, in engineering you need to balance between features and simplicity, and simplicity and manufacturing, and manufacturing and materials cost. There is no perfect outcome, improving one thing worsens another.

        The fact that gender or race play any factor of consideration for a job that is not pushing out a baby or being an Asian model (for example), race and gender should mean nothing

        the way this is worded implies that the implication of race and gender in job positions is normal, but i assume you meant the opposite. In an ideal world, it should mean nothing. But men and women are two different sects of the population, with fundamentally different consumer behaviors, men buy things women dont, women buy things men don’t, and while there is absolutely discrimination in the workplace surrounding these things. It’s also debatable whether they’re even super relevant. Data collection and sciences is a hard field.

        As far as jobs go, women can have children, and if you’re a company looking for employees, you have to contend with the basic fact that women getting pregnant can drop 9 months or more out of the workforce, meaning you probably have to hire more women to do the same collective amount of work, or you move through more job positions in that given group. It’s likely not all that significant, but it’s something you have to think about. Granted in the US we have fuck all for maternal leave, so who knows whether this is even relevant to begin with lol.

        You only ever hear “I want the best person for the job” when a non white non male is chosen. Basically if it’s a white male, the assumption is he is probably ok for the job

        you should probably hear this with every hire, but the implication that a white male being chosen is “somehow worse” than any given minority candidate is a weird statement to make. Though, education wise it could be true.