Listen. Art is subjective. That’s a fact. Any sort of objective rating we try to make just amounts to what we think other people will think or certain types of other people (e.g., “cultured” people). We shouldn’t judge movies based on that! If you liked it then it was a good movie. I’m tired of pretending that’s not the case.
It’s not necessarily a matter of subjective vs. objective. There’s a difference between appreciating art and enjoying watching something. IMO, Tommy Wiseau’s “The Room” is utter garbage, but it was extremely enjoyable to watch.
But shouldn’t we compare our greatest experiences of art? In the same way that people may say, “oh, this movie is actually better in a theater”, if the most enjoyment you can get out of a “bad movie” is by hate watching it with friends then do that! I believe that if everyone rated movies like this that the stinkers would still have worse ratings for the most part.
Like, recently saw Madam Web and had a blast. I’d give is 3/5 based on the enjoyment of watching.
This is part of why knowing the critic’s opinions are so important. You should trust people with similar tastes to you. People that prefer fine cinema and don’t want to hate watch should read critics that have the same opinion. Aggregate scores wouldn’t change too much. We could find the movies that are so awful not even hate watching them redeems them!
This movie was 100% trash and I loved it when I watched it as a kid. It did not hold up to a later rewatching as a 20-something, even when stoned.
Listen. Art is subjective. That’s a fact. Any sort of objective rating we try to make just amounts to what we think other people will think or certain types of other people (e.g., “cultured” people). We shouldn’t judge movies based on that! If you liked it then it was a good movie. I’m tired of pretending that’s not the case.
It’s not necessarily a matter of subjective vs. objective. There’s a difference between appreciating art and enjoying watching something. IMO, Tommy Wiseau’s “The Room” is utter garbage, but it was extremely enjoyable to watch.
But shouldn’t we compare our greatest experiences of art? In the same way that people may say, “oh, this movie is actually better in a theater”, if the most enjoyment you can get out of a “bad movie” is by hate watching it with friends then do that! I believe that if everyone rated movies like this that the stinkers would still have worse ratings for the most part.
Like, recently saw Madam Web and had a blast. I’d give is 3/5 based on the enjoyment of watching.
This is part of why knowing the critic’s opinions are so important. You should trust people with similar tastes to you. People that prefer fine cinema and don’t want to hate watch should read critics that have the same opinion. Aggregate scores wouldn’t change too much. We could find the movies that are so awful not even hate watching them redeems them!