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    4 months ago
    • So we don’t want a ceasefire? WHAT?

    • And you think Israel is only buying weapons from the US…?

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      4 months ago
      • So we don’t want a ceasefire? WHAT?
        

      weasel politicians have discovered that you don’t need to do anything, you simply need to say you’re doing something, and change the meaning of the word. ‘ceasefire’ as the democrats now speak about it, is too little, too late. Especially considering they have been the administration bypassing congress to send weapons to the ongoing massacre.

      • And you think Israel is only buying weapons from the US…?

      If it was viable for the settler entity to support itself, why are the Democrats so quick to send them bombs to murder civilians with? Cut them off.

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        politicians say stuff and lie

        That’s not an argument. There is nothing for me to engage with.

        I think you’re right and you shouldn’t bother to vote. What’s the point?

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          I am right and I still vote, but this is not a democracy, that’s mostly my issue. If Democrats are not going to meaningfully distinguish themselves from Republicans when it comes to how they treat people who look like me, why should I treat them with any less scorn?

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            Are any Republicans calling for a ceasefire? You can’t in one breath admonish them for misleading you then in the other call for them to set policy.

            I understand the frustration. I really do.

            Whether justly or not, Israel is a long time ally in a region that is very unstable (I’m talking beyond Palestine/Israel).

            I don’t know what the right answer is. But between one side that wants to turn Palestine to glass and the other that wants to work towards a ceasefire, I’ll go with the latter. I’d love it if the US froze all weapons sales too.

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              I can express my total disgust with the people representing me, while still not wanting worse to happen.

              The issue is that our military support of our colonies is emeshed with our political system to the point where de-escalation is impossible. This is not something which has been arrived at democratically and I don’t have much confidence it can be solved in the existing “democratic” process.

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                I might be optimistic, but I think it’s partly a generational issue and understanding of geopolitics. We need young new people to run for office now more than ever. I’ve been around forever (I’m 38) and I can see the old guard readying to step down. Kamala could be that bridge.

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                  Part of the problem is running for office takes money, resources, etc. Young people are still more broke than ever and so it’s left to the same shrinking minority of people who are able to meaningfully engage with getting elected as in the previous generation. I want to be hopeful, but if the ‘new guard’ has all the same material interests as the old guard, I don’t think there’s going to be a meaningful change left to their own devices.