A US-based aid group admitted Friday that a group of individuals — who the Israeli military says were armed — took control of an aid convoy in the southern Gaza Strip the day before, without the organization having vetted them or coordinated the matter with the Israel Defense Forces.
The military said Thursday that it struck the gunmen, killing them while not harming aid workers.
According to the IDF, Hamas operatives frequently try to hijack aid deliveries.
The IDF had said on Thursday that a convoy of aid trucks from the American Near East Refugee Aid (Anera) organization entered the southern Rafah area with Israeli coordination. It said that during the drive, it identified a group of gunmen taking over a vehicle at the front of the convoy and beginning to lead it. The IDF described the act as a hijacking attempt.
Shortly afterward, the IDF said it was able to determine that it could strike just the car with the gunmen, without harming the rest of the convoy, and so it carried out a strike, killing at least four.
Times of Israel + IOF as sources is an instant red flag, and no matter what happened in this single incident let’s keep talking about the fact that there’s a genocide going out carried out by apartheid settler colonialists who want to kill every single Palestinian on this planet. We need a ceasefire now and an end to the colonization.
Have they been hunting Palestinian people across the globe? That’d make the Israeli regime worse than the Nazis, which is a bold claim. I think that, like the Nazis, they just want their targets removed from the land they claim as their own. They just happen to be fine with genocide to achieve that goal.
Yes they have been hunting Palestinian across the globe, they carried out a lot of assassinations against the Palestinian resistance. Although really I don’t see how there’s any comparison to the Nazis necessary so please don’t put words in my mouth.
I agree with you on the second part it’s just that their claim is based on a settler colonial ideology that can’t function without dehumanizing the colonized people and challenging their right to exist and they challenge that globally because every Palestinian existing anywhere on this planet potentially blocks them from achieving their sick goals
Israelis and Palestinians aren’t monoliths and both groups generally want to coexist peacefully in a region they both have legitimate historical ties to. Yes, to stop the current fighting a ceasefire is needed. However, a ceasefire is not going to solve the problem of the IDF’s unrestricted killing of civilians as bystanders in response to Hamas directly targeting civilians as part of their genocidal aims towards Jews (in general).
Just because the Israeli government has more power doesn’t suddenly make Israelis the “baddies.” There’s a reason why Palestinians, and other regional groups, want Hamas gone and look to the West Bank for the PLO to lead the future of a Palestinian state. Hamas takes actions without caring what happens to the people of Gaza as long as they get to kill some Jews (and inspire their killing globally) and provoke disproportionate retaliation from Netanyahu to feed back into their system of civilian oppression.
The moment lasting peace settles in the region, Netanyahu can’t continue to avoid his personal legal problems, Hamas can’t reach their goal of a global Jewish genocide, and Iran can’t continue to destabilize the region and avoid its own internal instability. The fact that weapons manufacturers don’t get to profit from this stability is also a global win.
The goal is to prevent the killing of Palestinian civilians and to restore their self-governance where they’re settled- also to rebuild. It should be fairly obvious that Hamas is the biggest roadblock. The IDF can then focus on right-wing settlers breaking Israeli law and restore those settlements back to Palestinians in their new state.
Where do you draw the line for “legitimate historical ties”? Because Israel was carved out of Palestinian territory in 1948.
If you keep going back, there was a Kingdom of Israel in the same region, but that was all the way back in the Iron Age. I don’t know if you can draw a line from there to modern Israel.
I understand that a line has to be drawn somewhere, and frankly it doesn’t matter how far back either’s claim goes - there are significant numbers of Palestinians and Israelis who have only known the current boundaries and any changes fundamentally alter their identities. Sure, we can go into the genocides committed against the Jews in the region over the past 2000 years that expelled them from the area and gives cause to antisemites that call Jews “white”, or violence perpetrated by Europeans when breaking up the Ottoman Empire and stoking ethnic violence over the past 100. But those claims only matter to the extremists as wedge issues used to divide.
Extremists shouldn’t get to determine the future of millions who clearly want to live peacefully together. No one can bring back the murdered, but Israel, regional powers, the US, and European countries owe it to humanity to rebuild the destroyed cities in the same fashion that we intend to rebuild Ukraine.
The Jewish people were expelled from the area in 70 CE so Palestinians essentially lived there for almost 2000 years.
Some things are really simple. The zionists have colonized Palestine and established an apartheid settler colonial regime that is currently committing genocide against the colonized. They are the baddies. That is not to say that Hamas are in any way the good guys, it’s just that colonizing people is wrong and apartheid and genocide are some of the worst crimes against humanity so an entity committing these crimes is of course bad.
If that is simple to you, then you really haven’t done any research into the subject. Would you call the native tribes of Oklahoma colonizers after they regained much of their land from the state? Of course not, because it’s not as simple as I’ve described it - imagine a non-native Oklahoman calling the Chickasaw colonizers because suddenly they are in the jurisdiction of that Nation? That’s what extremists sound like, using charged words that evoke emotions from other situations unlike the one described.
What are you even on about? I don’t think I can follow you.
the native tribes of Oklahoma are:
tho, it’s not surprising that someone who supports the Israeli settler colonial project would unironically pull “what if we have the Native Americans their land back”, a group of people who the US still saw as literal second class humans during WW1 and still had as second class residents during the 70s
but if you believe the Indians should stay in their reservations, I guess any stance other than brutal settler colonialism is meaningless.
now wouldn’t it be something if the Israeli government didn’t help Hamas win the civil war in Gaza, and have been supporting them by outlawing any secular alternatives?
dude, are you comparing the current far right, xenophobe, government trying to create an ethno-theocracy to Nazis? that’s anti-Semitic.
what, you’re going to say they both saw fit to commit genocide to gain “Lebensraum”, have an ideology of racial hierarchy and superiority, spread conspiracy theories that their chosen targets are actually at fault for every bag thing that happened to them, and of course spread the 14 words (with very slight modification) while portraying their “enemies” as literal “human animals”?
As Bill Burr said about the difficulty of raising kids vs. pets, you can compare anything. I could compare frisbees to Bundt cakes. They’re both round, but one has a hole in the center. See? I compared them.
So if I compare a genocidal, xenophobic ethno-state to a genocidal, xenophobic, theocratic ethno-state, well, that doesn’t mean they’re the same thing.
damn, if only we could categorize the actions of genocidal, xenophobic, ethno-states… maybe with some well known example that everyone knows is evil
Yes, they have. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_assassinations
And that’s just the ones we know about.
This is the kind of hyperbole that makes it real easy for others to label critics of the actions of current Israeli leadership antisemites.
No, Israelis are not trying to exterminate all Palestinians; Yes, Netanyahu does not care about limiting collateral damage when targeting suspected Hamas militants.
If you’re passionate enough to comment, be passionate enough to communicate unambiguously.
Try harder
Yes, the “all Palestinians on the planet” bit was indeed extreme. They don’t really care about Palestinians in, say, Michigan. It’s the ones in Gaza and the West Bank they want to get rid of. Ideally with “simple” ethnic cleansing and expulsion, a second Nakba, like their high ranking government officials have been saying. But in less than ideal situations, like the current one, their low ranking officials, military officers, prison guards, soldiers etc have already shown they are perfectly capable of hearing the genocidal dog whistle.
Nah I really mean it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_assassinations
They also killed many non violent political activists. Additionally Zionists deny Palestinians their Palestinian identity and just refer to them as „Arabs“. Any Palestinian who insists on their right to exist in their native homeland and is politically active in that matter can be killed literally anywhere anytime. The only way for a Palestinian to be left alone by the Zionist entity is to renounce their Palestinianness.
I didn’t say you didn’t mean It, I said it was an extreme statement and I stand by that characterization. I won’t deny that Israel has assassinated Palestinians in the rest of the world (I mean, …Haniyeh) but it’s absolutely not the case that any Palestinian anywhere is in danger from the Mossad simply for asserting their identity. The Israelis just haven’t sunk down to that level.
Fair enough, just saying that as the list shows even being merely an intellectual trying to keep the identity and culture alive can get you killed and what keeps alive a people’s identity if not culture? Anyway I understand that it sounds extreme to some and I think that’s okay.
no, it’s not hyperbole, please look up what many members of the Israeli government actually want, they are literally international wanted terrorists who’s sole missions is the extermination of the Palestinian peoples, that’s why they are literally referred to as “human animals”, “Canaanites”(a people that historically were genocided by the Israeli, even according to their own holy texts), are blamed for the holocaust (yes really).
Who cares about the truth.
Happy to translate this to German in case there’s a language barrier here, but that’s not how most people have read my comment.