• febra@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Yeah… as a german taxpayer this is exactly what we need now. Poke China for no real reason.

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          3 months ago

          Yep but if you think that word is too biased you can also call them communists, climate activists or snowflakes. Which one you pick depends solely on your own mood.

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            3 months ago

            Not used in good faith here. Hateful nationalist garbage people with nothing better to do and no original thoughts. Yeah, a 1/4 of the world’s population are terrorists because some government claimed them. I can’t stand ignorant mouth breathers…

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        3 months ago

        We’ve got bigger fish to fry at home. My government is actively fueling a genocide in Gaza and doing business with a shitton of other genocidal countries, so virtue signalling with our military by crossing some random strait in east Asia doesn’t make me feel any better about anything.

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          3 months ago

          Okay, but can you at least admit that China is doing a genocide against Muslims and that we need to wage a holy war to end their tyrannical communist rein and restore a godly liberal democracy to their shores?

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            3 months ago

            I agree that they are doing a genocide against the Uyghurs and that should be stopped. I don’t agree with any “holy wars” or whatever you’re on there, and I’m not a fan of “liberal democracy” either, since I myself am a communist. I don’t see how the german navy crossing through the taiwan strait will change any of that, or if it has absolutely any value, since Germany very well funds an active genocide right now and they don’t seem to have a problem with that or the tyrannical Israeli government either. This is just more pathetic virtue signalling.

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              3 months ago

              I don’t see how the german navy crossing through the taiwan strait will change any of that

              They’ll be greeted as liberators, obviously.

          • Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            3 months ago

            I agree. I would love to entirely block them, but as long as Lemmy is developed and controlled by tankies, this won’t happen. I’m convinced that they made the user-facing instance block feature so shitty on purpose, so people can’t entirely block their tankie instances on a user level. Because they know that they are annoying as fuck, and half the Fediverse would block them immediately.

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      3 months ago

      Would you rather encourage Chinese aggression and show them your country can be bullied around?

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        I’d rather my country not get involved in these superficial platitudes as long as they keep funding aggression in other parts of the globe. If they didn’t fund such aggressions, then I wouldn’t mind, but as of now, it only looks like pathetic virtue signalling to me.

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          “Funding aggression”. Lol. No wonder Germany got fucked in the ass by Russia and China so many times with such bootlickers among the voting population.

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            3 months ago

            Bootlickers for what? I’m talking about Germany funding Israel to commit its genocides in the Middle East. You’re the one licking boots if you still have the zionist boot down your throat. Also, it’s quite telling that you see nazi germany getting “fucked in the ass” by Russia as something bad.

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              I’m more with you regarding Israel. However, the context here is China, not Israel.

              Also, it’s quite telling that you see nazi germany getting “fucked in the ass” by Russia as something bad.

              Wtf. You know it’s 2024, right? Nazi Germany is no more (unless AfD and consorts form the new government).

              I was not talking about WW2-times.

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                Germany got fucked “in the ass” because of capitalist greed, not because of “people like me”. If it was up to me our industries would’ve never left the country in the first place, and most of the privatizations wouldn’t have gone through. Corporate greed would’ve been stopped, and foreign companies that don’t have the interest of the people would’ve been nationalized a long time ago. But that’s not the reality. Besides that, there’s plenty of nazi like rhetoric going around nowadays. Green politicians talking about “the poison of Islam” [1], which reminds me a lot of the antisemitic rhetoric from WW2 (see “Der Giftpilz” [2], talking about jewish people as “the poisonous mushroom”). Besides that, Germany didn’t denazify properly after WW2 anyway (“Persilscheine”, proper card carrying nazis in the first democratically elected government, and so on). The chancellor talking about “deportations in big style”. The CDU trying to ban refugees from going to any public events. And these are not even the nazis in the AfD. It might be 2024, but mentalities haven’t changed much, we’re just picking other out groups to stomp on, mostly because we’re not tackling the real issues at heart.

                But again, to get back on China, Germany is very well conducting major business with a ton of authoritarian countries, stomping on workers’ rights all across the world just to enrich German companies, and thus I won’t take their virtue signalling for anything more than just virtue signalling. They can talk about “feminist foreign policy” as much as they like while increasing business with Saudi Arabia, Azerbaijan, and now even working with the Taliban. They can talk about green policy as much as they like, while funding lithium extraction mines against the will of the people in Serbia. They can talk as much as they like about democracy, while empowering cops to break limbs and beat the shit out of protesters at peaceful pro Palestinian demonstrations. They can talk about humanity as much as they like, while funding a genocide in Gaza and an illegal occupation in the West Bank. And I haven’t even voiced an opinion on these policies, I’m here just pointing out the hypocrisy. If they care so much about Taiwan, they should at least make it clear that it is due to geostrategic interests, not because they suddenly found their love for democracy and what not other nonsense.

                [1] https://jungefreiheit.de/politik/deutschland/2024/gruenen-politikerin-warnt-vor-dem-gift-des-islams/

                [2] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Giftpilz