Thanks for the link, but I couldn’t get through the un-skippable multi-minute gold ad featuring Donald Trump Jr. It seems to be the New York Post’s edit of the video, which is also available on YouTube. Out of the few versions I watched last night, the New York Post one showed the most of the actual shooting, by choosing to blur the CEO rather than crop him out or completely cut the video before the first shot.
That and by some reports, the text on the casings were “carved” in. Any deformations would have added resistance to ejection. It didn’t seem to take him too off guard though.
Basic 9mm subs have about the same energy as standard loads. The most likely scenarios as I see:
Really dirty/dry gun.
They used a fixed mount instead of a booster. With tilting barrel pistols (most), you have to let the barrel float back a bit to unlock from the slide. You use a special mount called a booster to let this happen.
They used heavier recoil springs to prevent the gun from cycling - this would help keep the suppressed gun quiet. Alternatively, they may have used something with a locking bolt, but the hand motions look like your typical slide action.
I see you’re coming around to our way of thinking… would really be surprised if someone had gone in on a hit using a single rack hand gun as was mentioned earlier. Wrong tool for the job, I reckon. It’s super hard to extrapolate too much info from the video but, yeah, sub sonic and silencer is the combo that can create this result. I’ll wait for the ballistics report before stating this with more confidence…
It is pretty clearly an assassination, and the perp planned to get away. So it’d make sense he’d do some googling like “silent assasin pistol” and might have looked at that exact video.
You’d hear that upclose, but it wouldn’t be loud enough to panic people some distance away. You can even see the witness not being as afraid as they’d be hearing a truly unsuppressed larger caliber pistol so up close.
In the video he shoots a mag, and the first shot is almost silent, but but the last shots start sounding like gunfire.
Good call. I watched the hit without audio but, yes, the reaction of the witness does suggest that their eyes, rather than their ears, told them what was happening. I’m off to look at the link you supplied right now… thanks.
https://rumble.com/v5w038w-moments-unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson-gunned-down-by-suspect-at-close.html
Thanks for the link, but I couldn’t get through the un-skippable multi-minute gold ad featuring Donald Trump Jr. It seems to be the New York Post’s edit of the video, which is also available on YouTube. Out of the few versions I watched last night, the New York Post one showed the most of the actual shooting, by choosing to blur the CEO rather than crop him out or completely cut the video before the first shot.
Huh, he had to manually cock between shots. I’m assuming with subsonics and that silencer there just wasn’t enough pressure left.
That and by some reports, the text on the casings were “carved” in. Any deformations would have added resistance to ejection. It didn’t seem to take him too off guard though.
It’s either a big whoops or intentional.
Basic 9mm subs have about the same energy as standard loads. The most likely scenarios as I see:
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I see you’re coming around to our way of thinking… would really be surprised if someone had gone in on a hit using a single rack hand gun as was mentioned earlier. Wrong tool for the job, I reckon. It’s super hard to extrapolate too much info from the video but, yeah, sub sonic and silencer is the combo that can create this result. I’ll wait for the ballistics report before stating this with more confidence…
Idk. Do you happen to be into WWII history? Because to me, once I saw that video, I instantly thought of the Welrod Mk II, British SOE’s silent assasin pistol.
It is pretty clearly an assassination, and the perp planned to get away. So it’d make sense he’d do some googling like “silent assasin pistol” and might have looked at that exact video.
You’d hear that upclose, but it wouldn’t be loud enough to panic people some distance away. You can even see the witness not being as afraid as they’d be hearing a truly unsuppressed larger caliber pistol so up close.
In the video he shoots a mag, and the first shot is almost silent, but but the last shots start sounding like gunfire.
Regardless of your fire arms opinion… that is an amazing piece of kit. Good one for bringing it to my attention.
Good call. I watched the hit without audio but, yes, the reaction of the witness does suggest that their eyes, rather than their ears, told them what was happening. I’m off to look at the link you supplied right now… thanks.
Silencers increase blowback.
But just screwing a silencer onto a tilt-barrel automatic will usually result in this kind of jam. You need a special buffer behind the silencer.
Makes me think the silencer was DIY, not commercial.