• sab@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    I totally believe in a US conspiracy to cover up sightings, the question is whether it’s due to aliens, military secrets or something else entirely. In either case it would be interesting to watch it be unraveled.

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      Military secrets have existed since the dawn of civilization when the first savannah tribes kept their spear cache hidden until it was time to attack the neighboring clans. Aliens have never been even kinda confirmed with anything even whispering in the general direction of scientific evidence.

      So when something weird/unexpected happens and the military says, “We can’t talk about that”, the logical course of action is to conclude that it’s likely the exact same kind of secret folks like them have been keeping for literal millennia, and not that it’s suddenly the most fundamentally groundbreaking discovery that’s ever taken place on this planet or in our solar system. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and “we saw something we can’t identify” ain’t extraordinary anything.

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        1 year ago

        It’s also telling how aliens suddenly got so much more interested in planet Earth - and America in particular - during the cold war.

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      Incompetence. The fact that the vast majority of these sightings can be attributed to faulty equipment, user error, or mistaking a floating balloon as a UAP is a look the military would prefer not to externalize. There’s genuinely nothing more to it than that. The military has secrets. Nothing new there. But they aren’t flying secret drones over carrier groups in the gulf. They do them at closed off test sites.

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      The military is expected to have secrets. Having weapons platform research or opfor intel is not a conspiracy.

      Also, many things are classified (perhaps needlessly) as a matter of course.

      None of this points to aliens over anything more mundane (and I know you’re not necessarily saying that it does.)

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        Thia is not military spending. The claim and documents provided privately apparently show misappropriate funding for the retrieval and research of this with no oversight. If this is a secret military programme then it’s illegally funded and not complying with Congress notification, it’s a secret programme even from government. The least it is is a cover-up and significant fraud.

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          I think this is vital. Just because the military has legitimate secrets (weapons technology, strategies) doesn’t mean it can’t also have illegitimate secrets (crimes, waste of money, incompetence, anti-democratic conduct). It would be surprising if an institution as big as the US military didn’t have it’s fair share of both types.

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          The military misappropriates funds and dodges oversight constantly.

          That doesn’t, in any way, point to aliens.

          There are far better venues to reign in the military than a credulous hearing on UAPs.