• AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I’m always amazed at the amount of well researched pro musk comments pop up under things like this.

    I see at least two multi paragraph, cited comments including yours on this thread. Amazing how fast y’all can just fire these huge sets of data off like that!

    Before you go cumming over those financials, Tesla is currently slowly losing EV market share as other US producers bring on their vehicles https://www.axios.com/2023/04/05/tesla-ev-electric-vehicle-adoption.

    In addition, worldwide BYD is either outselling Tesla or about to outsell Tesla depending on the vehicle type! All that after being laughed off as competition by Musk. https://cleantechnica.com/2023/02/07/tesla-1-in-world-bev-sales-by-big-margin-2022-world-ev-sales-report/

    The American market loss is a matter of time as the larger auto makers being additional vehicles into the market, the global market loss has been written in stone for years now.

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      I see at least two multi paragraph, cited comments including yours on this thread. Amazing how fast y’all can just fire these huge sets of data off like that!

      I am clearly a bot, sent from the Illuminati, to promote the image of Elon Musk in his pursuit of world domination. Now that you have caught me I will commit suduko and retire to the Matrix. WAAAAAAAGAAAARBLGBLGBL

      The Axios article used data from Jan 2022 to Jan 2023, and over that specific period of time Tesla did indeed lose US market share. However when you include more recent data from Q1, Tesla made a large gain QoQ, and still increased their market share YoY. The key is to use current data to support your premise.

      As for BYD, while they currently command 12.6% of global BEV sales, compared to Tesla’s 18.2%, they are growing quickly. I think that’s great for competition, and great for the industry. Don’t you?

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        No I’m just always amazed that you seem to have come from having this argument already fully prepared.

        You can use current data, but if you are ignoring every bit of information that an investor would look at over a period of multiple financial cycles, you wouldn’t exactly be as bullish on the value and market share in comparison to other US makers who are increasing deliverables and aren’t having the same consistent QC issues.

        In addition, Elon is currently leaching value from Tesla to prop up his other ventures. I will be much more invested in Tesla once the board replaces him, which as a lay person I’m guessing they’re gonna do in the next year.

        Especially now that JB is back on the board. When they voted Straubel back in, Elon’s days were numbered imo.

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          1 year ago

          You’re amazed that someone might know things? These are the same discussions reddit has been having for years.

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      1 year ago

      Interesting how you got the opinion he’s a musk shill. He low key said Tesla treats the customers like shit. Which they do.

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        That’s fair, I shouldn’t say pro musk, just researched and cited, multiparagraph long comments relating to the topic. I like specifically looking at comments that are either neutral or indifferent to something bad.

        That’s the kinda shit where marketing and propaganda meet, politics and the sort of parasocial link to between people and corporations and billionaires.

        Everyone just came from already having this argument somewhere else, they’ve already thought about or discussed it enough to be able to fire off relevant, cited information. I mean including me, right?

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        Yeah, marketers could never pretend to be against the company to gain trust. That could never happen. /s

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          My guy you’re not wrong but this guy is stating pretty easy to find facts. Teslas do sell well, he’s not saying it’s a good thing. He’s saying very specifically because they sell well they can treat customers like garbage