• SuddenDownpour@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    If it’s a crime, do not fire them, lock them up in pris-

    President Volodymyr Zelenskyy called the actions “treason” and has initiated criminal proceedings.

    Oh. Oh well.

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      11 months ago

      Also, one of the main reasons the Russian army has been underperforming is corruption. Loads of money siphoned, incompetent people getting positions, you name it. Zelenskyy is also making sure the same doesn’t happen in his country and stays on top performance/efficiency wise.

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        11 months ago

        After 2014 they took some notes that ex-soviet army is garbage. One needs a lot of changes to make it reliable and efficient. Lots of ukrainian fighters would tell you that as well (like хрюнчик from reddit), it’s just so happens that they took it a little more serious this time and also trained with NATO troops. But the whole beaurocracy, man, it needs to be flushed like a turd. I have a distant knowledge of how it is in Ukraine, but I’m pretty sure that up to 2014 or even further they had everything on paper, no central digital database of draftees, this eased the bribing and fixing papers. Zee’s office would have a fun time cleaning this shit.

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        11 months ago

        Zelenskyy will go down in history with the likes of all great leaders. The man has risen to legendary status. Once this war is won and Ukraine is free, I hope he gets that much deserved beer and beach vacation.

        Slava Ukraina

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          11 months ago

          I can only agree with every single word, but I think he should go the Churchill way, and just find some peaceful and relaxing job once the whole thing is over (I know, Churchill actually stayed around for a while). For one: because he will definitely deserve it; but for two: looking at history (not excluding my own country’s), too many great politicians have fallen into the “…or you live long enough to become the villain” category. I’m rooting hard for Zelenskyy to at least get a draw and not go mad later.

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            11 months ago

            He has said a few times that after the war he’ll retire from politics.

            Considering his abysmal approval rating before the war and his huge popularity during it, I think he’ll take the “amazing wartime president” label and happily walk away afterwards.

            If history has shown us anything, the politicians you need in wartime and peacetime need very different skillsets.

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          11 months ago

          I think it’s far more likely that, over time, we find out he was pocketing a huge chunk of the wartime aid we US taxpayers are graciously going into further debt in order to fund, like Hamid Karzai and Saddam Hussein, themselves once also darlings of the US war machine.

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            11 months ago

            Ah yes because the money we give them is definitely more than a tiny drop in the lake which is the US military spending.

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              11 months ago

              The key words there are ‘US military spending’.

              Canada spends approximately 26 billion a year on their national defense.

              The US spends over a trillion, and Congress has approved around 113 billion for Ukraine. That is, by any measure, not a drop in the bucket. It’s unreasonable to argue that all 50 states wouldn’t benefit more from having those funds distributed at the state level. Hawaii in particular comes to mind right now.

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                11 months ago

                Arguably out of all the times pepole should complain about us military spending this is probably the worst .war in ukraine is probably one of the most just conflicts america was invloved in since probably the korean war or perhaps even WW2 . Its pretty rare to have a situation where you can say one side is the bad guy with such a certainity.And its not like they are sending troops or anything.just equipment and ammo ,more often that not american made, which means most of those dollars stays in USA either way.

                Alghtough the fact that the usual US military budget is overblown is also true.