• nostradiel@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I would be extremely careful about these claims from Ukrainian officials. They showed before that they are capable of anything to have attention of mainstream press and western countries. It’s propaganda on both ends - Russian and Ukrainian.

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        1 year ago

        You’re the type of idiot that would be living in Africa during the 1910s holding arguments about whether Germany or the US is better, while refusing to let anyone speak up about them both being awful.

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        1 year ago

        Both propagandas are bad. They obviously want to make themselves look better than the other and the other as bad as it gets. This kind of information war is a basic instrument in wars since Americans invented it.

        To your question that both are bad… Russian are killing people which is bad but to say that Ukrainian soldiers are good and that Ukrainians were saint nation before the war is a false statement as well.

        From my point of view Ukraine is just a victim of global politics. To blame only Russia for this development is not fair cause Americans pushed them to this.

        When USA attacked Iraq everyone was praising them and not placing sanctions against them even though that all reasons they provided to attack were intentionally falsified. And millions of civilians died and were tortured. But it’s middle east so why would west care, right?!

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          “cause Americans pushed them to this” the first or the second time? Americans pushed then for Georgia and Siria too? It’s certainly the US faulty too for the disastabilizations that Russia is causing in Africa They certainly pushed China to create conflict with indonesia, Philippines, malasya and Taiwan too, right? Go back to lemmygrad, US is shit as fck but don’t blame them for imperialism and land grab by authoritarian regimes.

          • BLU_Raze@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            1 year ago

            Russia and the US are trying to do the exact same thing to Eastern Europe right now. Just because the US claims “this is for democracy” doesn’t make it better. Also, the US recognizes Taiwan as an island beloning to China, they just hold informal agreements for the sake of military and tech, like chips or manufacturing.

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          1 year ago

          Propaganda is “bad” but that does not mean everything is of equal weight. Killing people is bad but that doesn’t mean killing unprovoked is equal to killing in self defense. That doesn’t mean they’re even similar.