An Israeli military spokesperson confirmed that there were “hostage situations” in the southern city of Ofakim and the nearby kibbutz of Beeri.

Hamas said it had taken “dozens” of Israeli soldiers hostage and moved them to the Gaza Strip as footage emerged appearing to show gunmen in military fatigues leading a group of mostly barefoot women down a street in Israel.

The announcement and video verified by NBC News came hours after Hamas launched a deadly land, air and sea attack and fired a huge barrage of rockets at Israel.

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    Slowly genociding an entire people and their culture for their land eventually pushes them to commit unspeakable acts of violence to try and save themselves? Interesting.

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      If anything the attacks will always have a response so that a rational actor would think better the next time. That strategy at best keeps the status quo and at worst could end in their own extermination.

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      How is this saving themselves?

      Do they somehow think that brutal violence at civilians will deter Israelis after brutal violence at civilians didn’t deter themselves?

      No, all they’ve done here is fuck over both Israeli and Palestinian civilians. Senseless violence and revenge where nobody wins.

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      Gaza population growth is 3% a year. If the Israelis are committing genocide they’re not doing a very good job.

      Words matter. The Israelis treat the Palestinians atrociously but it’s not genocide.

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          Our projections only ever reveal about ourselves, and never about the person onto which we thought to project.

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          That implies Israeli crimes are excusable.

          No, it doesn’t, but the fact you think it does says a lot about YOU.

          Rational, informed people condemn both sides here.

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        You sound like a spastic. I wonder how many Palestinian civilians the Israeli government has killed. They really do deserve each other.

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        Self defense is inexcusable? Or only inexcusable when certain people deign to exercise such rights?

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          This will only bring more conflict upon the people Hamas pretends to “protect”

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            Worse than the abuse and degradation that they already experience? Worse than losing their land to thieves backed by the western world? Worse than being targeted by Zionist security agents?

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              Yes, since now all those things will be escalated in revenge for these indiscriminate attacks. It goes both ways, it’s not one side that needs to relent; to achieve peace, both sides need to relent, but acts like this make that notion more and more implausible, and in the end it’ll only lead to further escalation and further suffering, and given that Israel has more resources than Palestine or Gaza, that suffering will be felt more by the people Hamas “protects”.

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          Self-defense against this little teenage monster, huh? https://www.instagram.com/p/CyG1HdsA5I9/

          There’s no such thing as self-defense against a civilian who never hurt anybody.

          These are not incidental victims while the terrorists target the IDF. These are the targets. They are targeting innocent little girls.

          Yes, murdering and kidnapping civilians is inexcusable, why would that be excusable?

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            The Israelis murder and kidnap Palestinian children on an almost daily basis. They kill Palestinians regularly. Are they not civilians being unfairly brutalized or is it only unfair when the western world says so? Or only when the victims are female, another bizarre western norm.

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              The Israelis murder and kidnap Palestinian children on an almost daily basis.

              Lol, you assholes just love the fact that nobody’s going to look this up on Google.

              Not even close. Total Palestinian deaths this year are around 2-300, by Hamas estimates, and are mostly adults engaged in terrorism, although Hamas refuses to distinguish. That number likely also includes Palestinian victims of friendly fire. Kidnappings are negligible—unless you count arresting a terrorist as kidnnapping. Palestinian children have died, but it’s nowhere near daily or even weekly.

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      You’d think after the atrocities of the 1930/40s they suffered they’d learn to have some empathy for others, but nope