Are you seriously comparing a group that openly targets civilians, hiding in civilian infrastructure, with a group that retaliates? Good luck coming up with a response that matches your standards when your country is under a rocket barrage. The double standards people develop when sitting in the safety of their home and regurgitating biased news… It’s thanks to people like you that this conflict thrives, because extremists from both sides use the lies you spread to their advantage.
re you seriously comparing a group that openly targets civilians, hiding in civilian infrastructure, with a group that retaliates?
Israel oppresses Palestinians, Hamas retaliates and Israel retaliates against their retaliation, rinse and repeat. The only ones with the power to change this dynamic are Israel and they’re not doing that.
Palestinians have walked away from every peace talk and turned to terrorism.
Because every peace talk has been “We’re gonna offer you a fraction of your stuff and you should be happy about it”. The Israeli position is that Palestine should be happy with breadcrumbs, and Palestinians are understandably not happy about that. Israel hasn’t changed its position, and has actually gotten worse, hence terrorism.
None of them involved pulling out of Gaza and the West Bank, that’s for sure. When your peace offers practically don’t even include independence, it’s hard to take them seriously. And don’t get me started about East Jerusalem.
Hamas quite famously and openly uses their own people as human shields. They launch rocket attacks from hospitals and school buildings to give Israel the choice between retaliating by striking those places, or just sitting there and letting their own civilians die.
And when you get mad at Israel for the times they do retaliate, you’re 100 percent playing into the hands of the terrorists. The WHOLE reason they use this tactic is because YOUR reaction to it is their goal.
Which is why it’s infuriating when someone takes a side without a shred of nuance here. Too many people don’t understand that you can can condemn Hamas, condemn the Israeli government, and still believe the Palestinian and Israeli civilians deserve to live in peace.
They hold Israel to an invented standard that they apply to no other nation.
There was a brief, shining moment after 9/11 when the entire world was united against terrorism. But the critics of Israel were so determined to frame Israel as the bad guys that they invented a meaningless phrase “state terrorism” which just meant “anything that Israel does”. And they pretended that that was the moral equal to the actual terrorism of the Palestinians, deliberately targeting children and other innocents.
Israel builds a fence to keep out suicide bombers. They scream “apartheid!”
Israel bulldozes a vacated house that was used as a terrorist bomb-making factory. They scream “genocide!”
The problem with Israel’s critics is that since they damn Israel for any and every action, they have made their voices utterly useless.
Are you seriously comparing a group that openly targets civilians, hiding in civilian infrastructure, with a group that retaliates? Good luck coming up with a response that matches your standards when your country is under a rocket barrage. The double standards people develop when sitting in the safety of their home and regurgitating biased news… It’s thanks to people like you that this conflict thrives, because extremists from both sides use the lies you spread to their advantage.
Israel oppresses Palestinians, Hamas retaliates and Israel retaliates against their retaliation, rinse and repeat. The only ones with the power to change this dynamic are Israel and they’re not doing that.
They’ve offered these people peaceful coexistance and self-governance for more than half a century.
Palestinians have walked away from every peace talk and turned to terrorism.
The only ones with power to change the dynamic are the Palestinians.
Because every peace talk has been “We’re gonna offer you a fraction of your stuff and you should be happy about it”. The Israeli position is that Palestine should be happy with breadcrumbs, and Palestinians are understandably not happy about that. Israel hasn’t changed its position, and has actually gotten worse, hence terrorism.
Not at all. Israel’s offers of peace have been objectively the most generous terms in history.
None of them involved pulling out of Gaza and the West Bank, that’s for sure. When your peace offers practically don’t even include independence, it’s hard to take them seriously. And don’t get me started about East Jerusalem.
Yikes, dude. They already pulled out of Gaza… A looong time ago.
Yes. After six years of fighting.
The funny thing is I have no idea which side you’re talking about here.
Hamas quite famously and openly uses their own people as human shields. They launch rocket attacks from hospitals and school buildings to give Israel the choice between retaliating by striking those places, or just sitting there and letting their own civilians die.
And when you get mad at Israel for the times they do retaliate, you’re 100 percent playing into the hands of the terrorists. The WHOLE reason they use this tactic is because YOUR reaction to it is their goal.
Right? This is shitty all 'round
Which is why it’s infuriating when someone takes a side without a shred of nuance here. Too many people don’t understand that you can can condemn Hamas, condemn the Israeli government, and still believe the Palestinian and Israeli civilians deserve to live in peace.
The Palestinian love Hamas, and utterly detest Israel
That’s exactly what they are doing.
They hold Israel to an invented standard that they apply to no other nation.
There was a brief, shining moment after 9/11 when the entire world was united against terrorism. But the critics of Israel were so determined to frame Israel as the bad guys that they invented a meaningless phrase “state terrorism” which just meant “anything that Israel does”. And they pretended that that was the moral equal to the actual terrorism of the Palestinians, deliberately targeting children and other innocents.
Israel builds a fence to keep out suicide bombers. They scream “apartheid!”
Israel bulldozes a vacated house that was used as a terrorist bomb-making factory. They scream “genocide!”
The problem with Israel’s critics is that since they damn Israel for any and every action, they have made their voices utterly useless.