• flossdaily@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    My friend, these anti-Israel zealots won’t be happy unless Israel just rolls over and lets Hamas kill Jews without consequence.

    The anti-Israel crowd thinkd Israel is the devil of it fights back.

    They think Israel is the devil, if, as you mentioned, they call buildings ahead of time, and give people time to evacuate, before Israel bombs terrorist. Headquarters, because I guess they think Palestinian buildings are more important than Israeli lives.

    They think Israel is the devil if they build a security fence to keep our suicide bombers.

    Mostly they think Israel is the devil because Israel offered the most general peace deal in history, but refuse to give Palestinian’s the Right of Return, which would have allowed Palestinians to claim voting rights, and literally vote to turn Israel into an anti-Jewish theocracy.

    Now… Most of the people HERE haven’t the foggiest clue about any of that. And if you talked them through the situation and the options, they’d understand that Israel does not now, nor have they ever had a partner on the Palestinian side with which to make peace. They want Israel gone, full stop. And you can’t make peace with people who believe in literally no situations in which you still exist at the end.

    Israel, on the other hand has showed throughout it’s history that it will do extraordinary things for peace. They gave up land for peace with Egypt. They have offered extraordinary concessions.

    But the people who really needed to read this downvoted me in the first paragraph and are already typing a rant.

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      1 year ago

      ah yes how magnanimous of them to give back Sinai after illegally occupying it for 15 years.

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      They should cede the land, yes. I don’t care if they keep living there, but they should, you know, stop stealing land and literal homes from the victims of the apartheid they’re benefitting from. You don’t blame a beaten dog for lashing out at the hand that hits it.

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        1 year ago

        I am against the settlements. Dick move.

        But I’m against Palestinians blowing up school busses more.

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          Wasn’t Israel literally demolishing the homes of innocent Palestinian families, causing small children to become homeless overnight? Terrorist groups usually form in response to something. Like, I don’t know, an apartheid state killing them if they don’t leave their homes

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            And now they’re a terrorist group killing innocent people leaving their homes. Israel decided to punish people for being born Palestinian. Hamas has decided to punish people for being born Israeli.

            You can’t hate one but support the other. All Hamas has done is make it clear they’re no better, likely worse even.

          • flossdaily@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            Israel has demolished a lot of homes, most because they were being used by terrorists to make bombs.

            Some for other reasons. We’d have to look at a case by case basis to see what you’re referring to.

            If you’re saying that Israel just rolled in to for the purpose of making life miserable, and knocked down a house, I’d be really curious about who is making that claim and what evidence they are citing.

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            1 year ago

            Yeah, Israel has murdered Palestinian children, it just doesn’t get publicized as much.

            Not condoning Hamas here. This is two shitty groups being shitty to each other and innocent civilians getting caught up in it.