If only you cried for the oppressed as much as you cry for the oppressor.
There were two ‘Reigns of Terror,’ if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the ‘horrors’ of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break?
What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror–that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.
The sign of a campist, they can’t conceive of the idea that an act itself is what makes the action good or bad, so they assume nobody else can either, and therefore only call out bad actions selectively for debate advantage.
Power dynamics establish only if a motivation for bad actions is built into the systems of local governance. Not if those actions are bad.
I don’t care how oppressed the folks in Gaza are, the rape and murder of civilians is not suddenly ok because some Bougeyevik with a soviet iconography fetishized picrew pfp on twitter says they had it coming for being le evil settlers.
Nevermind how the settler shit hasn’t been a relevant issue for Gaza’s situation since the early 2000s. The half of Palestine that actually has to deal with what all the hammer and sickle profiles justify permitting mass rape and slaughter with is completely separate from where this shitstorm erupted from.
I did look through their Lemmy posts but arguably its not the full story I’ll admit.
The act with no context committed in a void is terrible, but we’re not talkimg about theoretical ethics, everything has context and that context can change everything. You probably wouldn’t be so angry at videos of resistance fighters raping and murdering Nazis and collaborators, why? Because of the context.
Violence against oppression is not something that can or should be condemned by those who have never faced that oppression.
Also hate to break it to you the settlers will be an issue for as long as they are there. Look at Northern Ireland, it’s been 400 years and the settlers there are still an issue. Look at America, it’s been 300 years and the settlers there are still causing issues for the indigenous people.
Imagine comparing civilians and children to fucking Nazis and Nazi collaborators. Particularly Israeli civilians and children given the impetus behind how Israel was ultimately recognized to begin with.
I picked an example that I knew the context would be almost universally thought of as morally good even though the act in it’s self is indefensible.
I’m not comparing those two either, the IDF exists and makes a great comparison against other fascist state’s armies. French resistance fighters also definitely killed innocent civilians and children so still makes a decent comparison since society views violent resistance against certain oppressors even with civilian casualties as okay and some as terrorism.
Also Imagine being so braindead that thinking being against fascist states means you are antisemitic.
No amount of oppression justifies raping civilians.
If only you cried for the oppressed as much as you cry for the oppressor.
Mark Twain
How the fuck do you know they don’t?
The sign of a campist, they can’t conceive of the idea that an act itself is what makes the action good or bad, so they assume nobody else can either, and therefore only call out bad actions selectively for debate advantage.
Power dynamics establish only if a motivation for bad actions is built into the systems of local governance. Not if those actions are bad.
I don’t care how oppressed the folks in Gaza are, the rape and murder of civilians is not suddenly ok because some Bougeyevik with a soviet iconography fetishized picrew pfp on twitter says they had it coming for being le evil settlers.
Nevermind how the settler shit hasn’t been a relevant issue for Gaza’s situation since the early 2000s. The half of Palestine that actually has to deal with what all the hammer and sickle profiles justify permitting mass rape and slaughter with is completely separate from where this shitstorm erupted from.
I did look through their Lemmy posts but arguably its not the full story I’ll admit.
The act with no context committed in a void is terrible, but we’re not talkimg about theoretical ethics, everything has context and that context can change everything. You probably wouldn’t be so angry at videos of resistance fighters raping and murdering Nazis and collaborators, why? Because of the context.
Violence against oppression is not something that can or should be condemned by those who have never faced that oppression.
Also hate to break it to you the settlers will be an issue for as long as they are there. Look at Northern Ireland, it’s been 400 years and the settlers there are still an issue. Look at America, it’s been 300 years and the settlers there are still causing issues for the indigenous people.
Imagine comparing civilians and children to fucking Nazis and Nazi collaborators. Particularly Israeli civilians and children given the impetus behind how Israel was ultimately recognized to begin with.
I picked an example that I knew the context would be almost universally thought of as morally good even though the act in it’s self is indefensible.
I’m not comparing those two either, the IDF exists and makes a great comparison against other fascist state’s armies. French resistance fighters also definitely killed innocent civilians and children so still makes a decent comparison since society views violent resistance against certain oppressors even with civilian casualties as okay and some as terrorism.
Also Imagine being so braindead that thinking being against fascist states means you are antisemitic.