• DessertStorms@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    arrow-down
    9
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    essentially illiterate (and i mean this with all due respect) people from a completely different culture who are not prepared to do anything remotely useful for at least 10 years, probably more.

    saying with all due respect doesn’t make your bullshit racist essay any less racist, racist.

    • Serdan@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      1 year ago

      Careful now. Calling racists racist is impolite and very frowned upon.

    • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      How is this racist? If I move to, say, Azerbaijan, I’m just as lost as them. I know fuck all about the language, can’t even read the alphabet they have and don’t know shit about the culture. And we share skincolours.

      I have a PhD, but I’m basically useless in Azerbaijan for anything but menial labour, explained slowly with lots of gestures.

      • SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        Culture isn’t nearly that important, and learning the language, or just speaking English, is a minor obstacle all things considered. If you move somewhere, you will get a language teacher.

        • Saik0@lemmy.saik0.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          1 year ago

          What the hell are you talking about? Culture is hugely important, if you move somewhere that fundamentally has issue with you… might might be outright killed.

          Countries don’t all necessarily speak English. I’m visiting Mexico right now… it’s actually quite hard at times to find English speakers. The police I’ve interacted with here… no English. Border crossing… very limited English. Acting like English is something special is very short sighted.

          Assuming that all immigrants or refugees will just have access to language tutoring is absurd. That’s typically an expensive cost. One that many people simply cannot afford.

          • SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            Well, then maybe it’s different In the Americas, I don’t know, but you mentioned an European country.

            I live in Europe, been around various places in Europe. I’m an immigrant myself. It’s not nearly as bad as you might think.

            And yes, obviously racism and xenophobia is a problem, but integrating into the culture won’t fix that.

    • JasSmith@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      If you won’t even acknowledge that some people need help to learn to read, does that mean you want to eliminate literacy support for refugees? Isn’t that far more racist than just accepting reality? I believe this is what we call horseshoe politics at work. The tendency for the loudest “anti-racists” in the room to be the absolute worst racists.