• PupBiru@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    are as likely to die from covid, as unvaccinated elderly people

    and that’s the bit of grey that some people seem to latch onto: some vaccines (like the COVID vaccines) don’t prevent disease: they reduce the likelihood or severity of disease. that doesn’t mean they don’t work, it just means that they only work most of the time… which is a whole shit load better than none of the time

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      11 months ago

      IRC another reason is that the figures show the elderly, who are most likely to be vaccinated, also die at higher rates. Often older vaccinated people died at higher rates than younger unvaccinated people.

      But the actual reason the elderly die in higher numbers, is because they’re old. If you compare the unvaccinated elderly to the vaccinated elderly, obviously the unvaccinated die in higher numbers.

      Once you correct for age, it’s obvious that vaccines do work.

      I say obvious, it’s almost impossible to convince an anti-vaxxer. They’re already lost.

      Sad really.

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        Here’s where you’re wrong: The most vaccinated population is the elderly. Therefore, if mRNA were effective, there would be a decrease in the age distribution of initial death rates in the most vaccinated population over the age of 65, compared to the younger population who were vaccinated to a lesser extent. People have been vaccinated and failed without any data showing that vaccines work. If only they had worked, we wouldn’t be talking about this.