• TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    The billions of people, who even the stupidest of antivaxxer could come up with a way to pin something on a vaccine, though? Meaningless. Ignore that pesky little detail. Every person who dies now is a vaccine victim!

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    The dangers of being alone. If someone was there when he suffered whatever event happened, be it cardiac arrest or stroke or whatever then they could’ve called emergency services and he might’ve survived. Instead he was all alone and when his assistant came back it was too late.

    I know far too many stories like this.

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      He also drowned in a hot tub (according to headlines I saw last night). That happens when you’re wasted.

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        Or when you have a heart attack or a stroke or a seizure or… We don’t know the cause so let’s not jump to conclusions like these antivaxers do.

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      Since 2021, like clockwork, every time someone famous passes away, at least a dozen disgusting unhinged lunatics will have posted snarky self righteous rants about vaccines before the body is even cold.

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        This week, my ex colleague I haven’t seen or talked to in a year told my friend “Kecessa is about to die from his vaccines, you’ll see!” They just won’t admit they might have been wrong all along!

        Glad to see I live rent free in their mind 🤷

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        Doesn’t have to be anyone famous. These people find every opportunity in their daily lives to attribute deaths of family, friends, coworkers, you name it to the vaccine.

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    There exists no greater piece of shit- than an antivaxxer that thinks they have a point to make. Because they Will ALWAYS drag innocent people through the mud to further their made-up bullshit for no other purpose than to make you feel as scared of everything as they are.

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      without questioning

      We’re supposed to question things? Ok.

      instead of questioning why our taxes are diverted to useless liquids

      Please provide a reputable source that proves your claim that the vaccine is useless. Medical journal, abstract from a study, etc.

      Even if the elderly are vaccinated, they continue to die from Covid.

      Please provide a reputable source that vaccinated elderly people are as likely to die from covid, as unvaccinated elderly people.

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        are as likely to die from covid, as unvaccinated elderly people

        and that’s the bit of grey that some people seem to latch onto: some vaccines (like the COVID vaccines) don’t prevent disease: they reduce the likelihood or severity of disease. that doesn’t mean they don’t work, it just means that they only work most of the time… which is a whole shit load better than none of the time

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          IRC another reason is that the figures show the elderly, who are most likely to be vaccinated, also die at higher rates. Often older vaccinated people died at higher rates than younger unvaccinated people.

          But the actual reason the elderly die in higher numbers, is because they’re old. If you compare the unvaccinated elderly to the vaccinated elderly, obviously the unvaccinated die in higher numbers.

          Once you correct for age, it’s obvious that vaccines do work.

          I say obvious, it’s almost impossible to convince an anti-vaxxer. They’re already lost.

          Sad really.

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            Here’s where you’re wrong: The most vaccinated population is the elderly. Therefore, if mRNA were effective, there would be a decrease in the age distribution of initial death rates in the most vaccinated population over the age of 65, compared to the younger population who were vaccinated to a lesser extent. People have been vaccinated and failed without any data showing that vaccines work. If only they had worked, we wouldn’t be talking about this.

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      Liquids? Why do conspiracists always have to be so fucking weird?

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        He only likes his mRna in solid form. Depending on his mood it’s either free based or taken as a suppository.

        As one does, y’know. As one does.

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        Big government keeps telling us that there is a liquid we have to keep drinking all day, every day. I won’t comply any longer. This day will be the last day I have drunk a drop of water.

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        people won’t be ready to accept that they complied and took the vaccines that are now slowly surfacing auto immune diseases and cancers in like every 10th or so person.

        Don’t talk shit.

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        the vaccines that are now slowly surfacing auto immune diseases and cancers in like every 10th or so person.

        Provide a reputable source for your claim that this is caused by vaccination.

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          I’ve seen this BS parroted before. There are in fact studies that show post-COVID increases in autoimmune disorders. However, the same studies showed that vaccinated individuals were less likely to have developed those disorders.

          Naturally if there’s a link between COVID and autoimmune disorders there will be vaccinated patients in those numbers. They try and make it seem like the vaccinated patients are the numbers though 🙄

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            I think it’s just easier for people to cope with bad things happening around them if they can simply point a finger at someone or something and blame that. It’s easier than accepting that the universe is random and chaotic, and sometimes random chaos decides to hurt you.

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    Honestly I’d rather not give any airtime to this one. We’re so far past the point where we could have seen issues that the conspiracy group is very small and very misinformed. More widespread conspiracies can be helpful to talk about so we can look into the details and explain what’s true and what’s not.

    There’s little benefit in broadcasting this conspiracy around

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    Can we not do some global crowd funding to send anti-vaxxers and flat earthers into space, preferably a one way trip?

    Asking for my sanity.

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        You seem to think that it’s lack of evidence that they remain convinced that the world is flat.

        They regularly ignore the results of their own experiments when it shows a round earth.

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          I loved it in one of the documentaries on Netflix (I think that’s one from there) when the guy is saying scientists have too much to lose from admitting they lied and the interviewer ask him “Ok, but isn’t that also your case? You would lose all your followers if you admitted the experiments prove you wrong and the Earth isn’t flat.” and the guy just stays there speechless 😐

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            Yes, “Beyond the Curve”

            It really goes to show that the whole flat earth movement was not actually about evidence. It’s a group devoted to using something called Natural Observation or something like that.

            Basically it needs to be something that they can handle physically and prove physically in order for it to exist. It’s not an accident that these same crackpots are often the same people who don’t think COVID is real.

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        It’s quite the opposite of what they want, It would probably mentally break them to see actual space and planets being a globe or they would just say “LOL NICE DIGITAL WINDOWS, THIS SHIT AINT REAL!!!1111ONEONEONE”.

        It’s a big problem in this day and age. People arguing ferociously against things that have already been proven. For some reason…

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          I think the reason is that they have no other way of feeling smart except idiotic conspiracy theories

  • ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶@lemmy.nz
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    Well geez, if people who aren’t doctors who haven’t examined the body or any toxicology reports firmly believe with no corroborating evidence that a vaccine administered 2 years caused this sudden death… who am I to doubt them?

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      My sister worked as a hospital lab tech for 40 years. She believes the anti vax bullshit. But she also fills her head with Fox hate and fear every night.

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      When coroner will finishes and concludes that for example it was drug overdose, and his family also will say that he never vaccinated himself and actually was a staunch antivaxxer. They will still say it was vaccine death, and this was fabricated to cover for it. If a letter is found out that he states he was strongly anti vaccine and recording of him shows up taking drugs and then swimming in the pool passing out and drowning. They will say the latter was faked and body double was hired by Soros to hid the real cause.

      There’s no way anything would convince them anything else. It really is hopeless.

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        The “best” part is when they scream “Facts don’t care about your feelings” but at the same time their feelings are above facts.

        It’s infuriating

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          It’s projection and always was. What they mean is their feelings don’t care about facts.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Matthew Perry, who charmed audiences across the globe as the sarcastic roommate Chandler Bing on the popular sitcom Friends, was reportedly found dead on Oct. 28 at his Los Angeles home from an apparent drowning, law enforcement sources confirmed to Rolling Stone.

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    In addition to Friends — which ran for 10 seasons and 236 episodes, and for a number of years was one of the most-watched television shows in America, earning Perry an Emmy nomination in 2002 for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Comedy Series — the actor earned a pair of Emmy nods for his scene-stealing turn as Associate White House Counsel Joe Quincy on The West Wing, and had memorable performances on Scrubs, The Good Wife/The Good Fight, and Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip, as well as the films Fools Rush In, The Whole Nine Yards series, and 17 Again opposite Zac Efron.

    When the news of Perry’s passing broke Saturday afternoon, a number of prominent right-wing/anti-vax accounts on X (formerly Twitter) — including Kandiss Taylor, a former Republican candidate for governor of Georgia and current GOP chair of Georgia’s 1st congressional district (and who also recently compared Taylor Swift to Satan) — were quick to blame the actor’s death on Perry being vaccinated for Covid-19 — even before an official cause of death had been established.

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    In previous interviews, Perry admitted to being in rehab at least 15 times and getting 14 surgeries on his stomach due to gastrointestinal perforation stemming from his opioid abuse.

    Then, at the age of 49, his colon burst from excessive opioid use and he spent two weeks in a coma and five months in the hospital, he wrote in his bestselling 2022 memoir, Friends, Lovers, and the Big Terrible Thing.

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    In late 2020, Perry had to pull out of filming a cameo in Adam McKay’s climate change satire Don’t Look Up after his heart stopped for five minutes and his ribs had to be broken to resuscitate him, he detailed in his memoir.

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    Be prepared to hear this shit for the next 50 years or so. Literally anytime anyone remotely famous dies they’ll be blaming it on the vaccine.