PARIS, Nov 27 (Reuters) - Six teenagers go on trial behind closed doors on Monday, accused of involvement in the beheading of French history teacher Samuel Paty by a suspected Islamist in 2020 in an attack that struck at the heart of the country’s secular values.
The teacher had shown his pupils cartoons of the Prophet Mohammad in a class on freedom of expression, angering a number of Muslim parents. Muslims believe that any depiction of the Prophet is blasphemous.
Media Bias Fact Check is only considered “reliable” because people use it. The actual authors of the site lack any real credentials for evaluating factuality, nevermind bias.
Well at least that means I’m not insane. I’ve had problems with it for a while.
I would’ve thought that we’d all learned that finding people who agree with each other on the internet says nothing about their individual or collective sanity.
Lmao fair enough.
Oh, who are the actual authors? You seem to know a lot about them.
Nobody knows anything except their names and what they themselves claim. The primary author and editor shares a name with a prominent American lawyer, and that’s about all we know. I’ve tried digging into the guy (he claims to have a physiology degree and works in healthcare), but I can’t find a single source that indicates he even exist.
Edit: anyone who tries to tell me that a name on a mortgage is an indication that someone exists should look a little bit more closely at those documents. I’ll wait.
Pretty neat how you’re here claiming to know they’re unqualified when nobody knows anything about them.🤔
Who is this we? Why do you believe I don’t know this individual? Do you believe you know me?
So you know nothing about this person and you’re pontificating about their credentials.
Idk if I was you I’d shut my mouth, and if I was anyone else I would stop putting stock in your opinions.
Cheers.
Edit: I love when my posts get downvoted in less time that it’d take to read them. It’s like you’re so out of control with your emotions that you can’t even read.
I always find it funny how there’s some people who are extremely keen on advocating for a person with no established credentials and little to indicate that they actually exist. Almost like they feel personally attacked, or something.
That’s you. You’re talking about yourself.
Hey, nobody listen to this guy, he’s got no credentials!
Why are you advocating for you?
You’re coming across as attacked.
So… I take it you know this guy, then?
That’s pretty cool.
No, I’m just not gonna pontificate about something I know nothing about like an idiot.
Cheers!
Got any other alt accounts you can brigade our conversation with?
Why would I brigade a conversation with someone who clearly trusts whatever is given to them without critical thought?
I’d love to discuss this more if you’d be interested. I teach mass communications and visual literacy courses at a university and have over a decade of experience. I’m always interested in discussing these things further, as media literacy is extremely important and we can only educate others and make improvements with our literacy skills through discussion, learning, and practice.
Could you tell me more about the authors you mention and where you got the information from?
One thing I like about Media Bias Fact Check is that their methodology is transparent and clear. Yes, there is a certain level of subjectivity, as there is with any analysis like this. They utilize fact checking best practices and have ethical funding. Even their competitors rate them to be accurate and credible.
They are considered reliable not because people use them, but because of their methodologies, transparency, and factuality. Nothing is 100%, but it’s a good resource in my opinion.
The only thing we know about the authors of Media Bias Fact Check is what they’ve posted on their website. There’s no corroborating source, no evidence of background, and no indication that these people actually exist other than a business registration for a sole prop and a sparsely-populated mortgage for the lead editor. You can feel free to dig deeper (I’ve focused on the primary author and editor), but this wouldn’t pass the sniff test.
Moreover, their methodology, frankly, doesn’t hold up to any type of scientific method. It’s a perversion of the scientific process. Their methodology is essentially surveying one of the authors and asking them to draw a point on a line. That’s not science.
Based on their methodology, Electronic Intifada has never failed a fact check and should be “very factual”… But it’s recorded as “mostly factual” because they have biased reporting. Reuters is recorded as “very factual,” but they’ve gotten a number of things wrong without correction… Sort of comes with the territory of being a news wire service. CBC, which has also not failed a fact check, only gets a “highly factual” rating because of their supposed left-leaning bias. Essentially, their subjective analysis conflates factuality with bias.
This also raises a bigger problem: the lead author and editor is clearly American and guides ratings towards an American Overton window. Thus, bias is viewed on the left-to-right scale commonly used in the US, with the center defined as the American center. Normally, this wouldn’t be a huge problem for American audiences, but as established MBFC conflates factuality with bias: essentially, any source that deviates from the “center of the American political spectrum” is seen as less factual. Their source for fact checks is a newspaper run out of a school that has received funding from the US state-funded Voice of America.
This is, of course, operating under the assumption that their methodology is actually valid… And that, in itself, is a dangerous assumption to make. There’s a lack of transparency in who’s doing what evaluation, and the end result of that is that the assessment itself is basically “what does one guy think about this site.” Despite them defining what they mean by left and right, they give scant evidence to justify their “quantitative” evaluation of sources - this, itself, makes their evaluation qualitative.
Some of their details also show a lack of understanding of the media landscape. Calling CBC News a “TV station” is a joke. Their website is also, frankly, a mess, which bothers me because it’s clear that they aren’t following basic modern web development principles and that’s really fucking annoying.
Their methodology is bunk, there’s very little transparency within their organization to establish credibility, and they conflate factuality with their perception of bias.