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      Complete anarchy, because as much as Trump WANTS to be a fascist, his first term proves he’s not actually any good at much of anything.

      The opposition to Trump’s fancy private police force in their black uniforms and snazzy gold trim, will result in the US becoming a failed state, and, yes, complete anarchy.

      Fascism is, by definition, a right wing ideology. Biden literally cannot be a fascist, he’s not even authoritarian. If he were we would have already had universal health care and student debt relief by now.

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          Fascism, by definition, is right wing ideology.

          Biden is centrist, not right wing.

          By definition he CAN’T be fascist, any more than Trump can be socialist.

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              A right wing fascist candidate would not have pushed for health care, infrastructure, unemployment, stimulus packages, or education refunds, all of which Biden did.

              Again, NOT right wing. Not even CLOSE to right wing, and that’s the “you must be this tall to ride this ride” for fascism.

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

              “Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right (no), authoritarian (no), ultranationalist (no) political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader (no), centralized autocracy (no), militarism (no), forcible suppression of opposition (no), belief in a natural social hierarchy (no), subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race (no), and strong regimentation of society and the economy (no).[2][3]”

              Point for point for point, Biden is not a fascist.

              https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism

              “they had many characteristics in common, including extreme militaristic nationalism (no), contempt for electoral democracy (no) and political and cultural liberalism (I WISH!), a belief in natural social hierarchy and the rule of elites (no), and the desire to create a Volksgemeinschaft (German: “people’s community”), in which individual interests would be subordinated to the good of the nation. (no)”

              https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

              fas·​cism ˈfa""-ˌshi-zəm   1

              "often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual (no) and that stands for a centralized autocratic government (no) headed by a dictatorial leader, (no) severe economic and social regimentation (no), and forcible suppression of opposition (no)

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              : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control (no)"

              Of the two 2024 candidates, only Trump meets the definition, NOT Biden.

              If Biden WERE actually a fascist, Hunter wouldn’t be staring down a prison term and Biden wouldn’t be looking at impeachment hearings. A fascist would have shut that shit down already.

              The problem with the internet is too many kids going “Well I don’t like it so it’s fascism!” that’s not how ANY of this works.

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                  “But he is far right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist.”

                  You don’t know what ANY of those words actually mean.

                  https://www.gale.com/primary-sources/political-extremism-and-radicalism/collections/history-of-right-wing-extremism

                  "It wasn’t until the 1950s and 1960s that the Far Right again began to rise, becoming a more dominant force with the formation of anti-democratic groups (not Biden) and political parties in the late 1960s and 1970s, including France’s Front National, Austria’s Freedom Party, and the UK’s National Front, which joined most of the post-war extreme right groups in the UK under one neo-fascist umbrella.

                  Right-wing extremism has continued its presence in the new conspiracism of a post-truth, pro-Trump American culture—predominantly taking the form of white supremacy groups (not Biden), such as the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) (Not Biden), who have had long histories in the United States. The KKK in particular, though first established as a secret society at the end of slavery, had a significant resurgence in the 1920s, staying close to the mainstream until the 1960s when a combination of the civil rights movement and wider political developments forced them into decline, with their remaining followers becoming even more extremist. Other uniquely American versions of Far Right extremism include the Christian Identity movement (not Biden) and white supremacist prison gangs such as Aryan Brotherhood. (not Biden)

                  The most recent iteration of right-wing extremism, the alt-right, has come about in the past few years with the growth of the internet and social media and is associated with right-wing terrorism. The alt-right continues the fixation on conspiracy, race, and white supremacy created by the extreme right-wing groups that came before it (not Biden), but differs in its lack of a physical place—with its followers communicating almost entirely online—and a new focus on ultra-masculinity (not Biden).

                  From conspiracy theories to white supremacy, far-right extremism has had a long, sometimes violent presence (not Biden) in Europe and America. The primary sources available in Gale’s Political Extremism and Radicalism series are essential resources for researchers looking to explore the nature of far-right groups and political parties—from major figures and events to examining the ideologies of these groups—using the propaganda they created to express new conspiracism (not Biden) and promote violence. (not Biden)"

                  Authoritarian -

                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism

                  “Authoritarianism is a political system characterized by a controlling government and the rejection of democracy, human rights, and political plurality. It involves the use of strong central power to preserve the political status quo, and reductions in the rule of law, separation of powers, and democratic voting.[1][2]”

                  NONE of which applies to Biden.

                  Ultra Nationalist -

                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultranationalism

                  “ultranationalism is essentially founded on xenophobia in a way that finds supposed legitimacy “through deeply mythicized narratives of past cultural or political periods of historical greatness or of old scores to settle against alleged enemies”. It can also draw on “vulgarized forms” of different aspects of the natural sciences such as anthropology and genetics, eugenics specifically playing a role, in order “to rationalize ideas of national superiority and destiny, of degeneracy and subhumanness” in Griffin’s opinion. Ultranationalists view the modern nation-state as, according to Griffin, a living organism directly akin to a physical person such that it can decay, grow, die, and additionally experience rebirth. He has highlighted Nazi Germany as a regime which was founded on ultranationalism.[3]”

                  Again, not Biden.