not really: eyewitness testimony is some of the worst we can ask for. you should ask carville, though, you don’t have to: he’s in the mini-doc i linked.
You’re doing way worse than throwing away your vote, you’re voting FOR genocide. If you and other Dem voters who want to feel good about yourself weren’t cowards and voted Green we wouldn’t be perpetuating a genocide in the first place.
Any vote is for genocide. You’re voting for either a self avowed zionist (Biden) a literal Nazi (Trump) or throwing away your vote to allow the literal Nazi to win.
You act like there was a non-genocide option. Once Hamas did that attack, there was no stopping the crazy right wing Israeli government from doing what they are doing.
So what? The US should take a hard line against Israel anyways, even if it does no good, right? Great, so Israel is removed from the US sphere of influence and goes shopping for a new sugar daddy. That would be China, or more likely Russia. Now Russia is chummy with both Israel and Iran, which has the inconvenient little side effect that the Palestinians will lose the support of Iran. But who cares about the Palestinians anyways.
Any hope the US had of restraining Israel in any way whatsoever is contingent on our continued support. Without that, we have no influence and someone else steps in.
I’m not claiming that Biden has handled this perfectly, but the general direction he has gone has been in the best interest of saving as many Palestinian lives as possible. There are no clean hands in foreign policy.
No one voting Stein would ever vote Biden so that’s untrue. A tired old argument that’s lost it’s luster, just like all your arguments for voting for Biden.
You will never get a 3rd party going. Perot had the best chance in '92 and only ensured Clinton got elected.
Not proud. I voted for Perot. I was dumb and young. He had charts and graphs.
I was too young to vote at the time, but the charts and graphs thing was rad.
He brought them to debates. To the naive, like me, that was big brained.
92 or 96? 92? Nobody blames you. :) 96? That’s on you!
the analysis shows that perot actually hurt clinton’s margin of victory.
Not if you knew any Perot supporters… He was Ron Paul before it was cool. :)
your anecdote doesn’t debunk fivetgirtyeight
It helps that I was on the ground living it in '92, fivethirtyeight was not.
not really: eyewitness testimony is some of the worst we can ask for. you should ask carville, though, you don’t have to: he’s in the mini-doc i linked.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/videos/the-ross-perot-myth/
Then let’s hope the Dems remove Genocide Joe as their nominee for the next election.
Also never say never. Trump started off as an epic meme candidate too at 1% polling.
I’m voting for the Green party because of your post, thanks!
Congratulations on throwing away your vote. I’m sure the 0.2% of people who voted Green in 2020 will welcome you with open arms.
https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/central-ny/decision-2020/2020/11/05/howie-hawkins-gets-2--of-vote-nationwide--worries-of-party-stance-in-ny
You’re doing way worse than throwing away your vote, you’re voting FOR genocide. If you and other Dem voters who want to feel good about yourself weren’t cowards and voted Green we wouldn’t be perpetuating a genocide in the first place.
Any vote is for genocide. You’re voting for either a self avowed zionist (Biden) a literal Nazi (Trump) or throwing away your vote to allow the literal Nazi to win.
Those are your ONLY choices.
last time i voted green and biden won. what is the mechanic by which trump will win this time?
A closer race? It ain’t rocket science.
my vote made Joe Biden win last time by the logic I’ve seen here. I’m going to keep voting for people who oppose genocide.
You act like there was a non-genocide option. Once Hamas did that attack, there was no stopping the crazy right wing Israeli government from doing what they are doing.
So what? The US should take a hard line against Israel anyways, even if it does no good, right? Great, so Israel is removed from the US sphere of influence and goes shopping for a new sugar daddy. That would be China, or more likely Russia. Now Russia is chummy with both Israel and Iran, which has the inconvenient little side effect that the Palestinians will lose the support of Iran. But who cares about the Palestinians anyways.
Any hope the US had of restraining Israel in any way whatsoever is contingent on our continued support. Without that, we have no influence and someone else steps in.
I’m not claiming that Biden has handled this perfectly, but the general direction he has gone has been in the best interest of saving as many Palestinian lives as possible. There are no clean hands in foreign policy.
Not choosing a dog in this fight of the conversation overall, but to answer your point specifically, if the youth vote stays home and doesn’t vote.
Last election Biden won in key States by a few thousands of votes, with a high amount of young voters voting in those states.
i know it’s unrelated to whether i vote for a third party in yet-another-election. the question was rhetorical.
I wasn’t just replying for you.
False. I won’t be voting for genocide unlike you. A vote for Jill Stein is 100x more productive to Palestinian liberation.
A vote for Jill Stein helps elect Trump. Congrats, you just voted for genocide. Only here.
only a vote for trump helps elect trump.
Any vote not for Biden helps Trump win because nobody, literally nobody else can beat Trump.
No one voting Stein would ever vote Biden so that’s untrue. A tired old argument that’s lost it’s luster, just like all your arguments for voting for Biden.
no, a vote for biden or a republican is a vote for genocide. a vote against both of them is a vote against genocide.