• AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    1 year ago

    If you’re not familiar, the US uses a two party system. Not voting is no different than voting for Jill. There’s no difference between not voting for Biden and voting for Trump.

    • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      There’s no difference between not voting for Biden and voting for Trump.

      yes there is. not voting at all is NOT voting for trump OR biden.

    • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      Not voting is no different than voting for Jill.

      wrong. voting for jill adds 1 vote for jill. not voting adds 0 votes for jill.

      • jordanlund@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        Unfortunately, when the votes are counted, whoever has the most votes wins.

        It doesn’t matter if the “not Trump” vote gets split across 1 candidate or 4 candidates, if Trump gets more votes than any one of them HE WINS.

        Trump - 40%
        Joe - 35%
        Jill - 15%
        West - 10%

        Trump wins. Even though “not Trump” is 60%.

        • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          1 year ago

          yep. i guess the democrats better drop out and throw their support behind a candidate other people can stomach.

          • jordanlund@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            Unfortunately, it’s not up to “the Democrats”, it’s up to the DNC and there is no way they will back anyone else unless Joe has a major medical event between now and election day.

            Even if he did drop out, they would push Harris who is poison right now.

              • jordanlund@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                1 year ago

                Won’t happen as long as they need money from Zionists and Evangelists.

                Maybe if we had public funding of elections.

        • voidMainVoid@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          1 year ago

          The problem is that, in a democracy, you have to vote for the best candidate. Otherwise, democracy doesn’t work. If you decide to vote for a candidate "you don’t like* (i.e. “strategic voting”), you are contributing to the problem.

          People call it “voting for the lesser evil”, but a vote for a lesser evil…is still a vote for evil. So, while it isn’t as wrong as voting for Trump, it’s still wrong.

          • jordanlund@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            Coalescing behind a candidate to defeat the worst choice is not wrong. Especially when the worst candidate will win otherwise.

            Now, in an election that goes to a run off if nobody gets 50%+1 - Great, vote for who you want. But be prepared to coalesce in the run off.

            Unfortunately, presedential elections aren’t subject to a run off.

    • voidMainVoid@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      This isn’t true, even if Jill loses.

      1. It shows the level of support for Jill’s platform.

      2. If the Green Party gets 5%, they qualify for a huge government grant which will help them become a more viable party.

      • AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Jill won’t win. It’s slightly better than not voting but ultimately you’re just helping Trump.