There’s between 20,000 to 25,000 HAMAS fighters(Not including other Palestinian factions that are fighting along HAMAS like PFLP or Islamic Jihad or DFLP), even if zero innocents would die, and it’s impossible in urban combat by your logic it would still be genocide.
That’s the thing. It’s called a war crime because it’s a crime to commit it during a war. Israel is making the calculation that even if they do kill Gazan citizens it’s ok because they got the bad guy too, it’s a terrible calculation.
Anyone who says this isn’t genocide is an idiot or evil.
Or, you know, anyone that understands what genocide is, that it’s defined by intent and not body count. But I guess you’d rather pretend that no one reasonable could possibly disagree.
Hamas members represent ~1% of Gazans, (20-25k.) Even if Israel had perfect aim with zero collateral damage they would have killed this many.
Got it, you don’t care if your accusations are accurate as long as they are cathartic. Everyone who disagrees is evil, that’s clearly why you’re always right, because you aren’t evil, do I have that correct?
And here I thought words meant things. Turns out I’m just evil. Dang.
I call you evil because you are making apologies for a Government that kills civilians. You have decided to only listen to the words of their public relations officers when determining intent and have ignored the actions and inactions that reveal their actual intentions.
No, I just pointed out that your claim that this is genocide is inaccurate. You can say you don’t believe them, that’s fine, but unless you can establish intent or change the legal definition of genocide you’re simply wrong about this being one.
Every government kills civilians in war. Few show the restraint Israel has.
Don’t be pissed off and call me evil just because I’m unwilling to pick up a torch and join the anti-Israel angry mob that the fediverse seems to have somehow cultivated. I’ve listened to the words and seen the actions of those who oppose Israel, and I do not find them compelling. Hamas started this and has popular support. This is what they wanted. They could end it at any time by surrendering and returning the hostages.
Israel’s obvious and stated intention: safety for its people. I don’t expect this conflict will end until that has been achieved. At the very least this means deposing Hamas.
Israel has killed 1% of their population, thats insane! Anyone who says this isn’t genocide is an idiot or evil.
There’s between 20,000 to 25,000 HAMAS fighters(Not including other Palestinian factions that are fighting along HAMAS like PFLP or Islamic Jihad or DFLP), even if zero innocents would die, and it’s impossible in urban combat by your logic it would still be genocide.
That’s the thing. It’s called a war crime because it’s a crime to commit it during a war. Israel is making the calculation that even if they do kill Gazan citizens it’s ok because they got the bad guy too, it’s a terrible calculation.
Source for those numbers?
Because both Hamas and Israel have reason to inflate the number of fighters.
Source: United States Director of National Intelligence
Yes, this is the source I used, because it seems the most realistic to me.
The HAMAS in group source says that it has 40k fighters, but it seems too inflated to me. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/how-hamas-aims-trap-israel-gaza-quagmire-2023-11-03/
Or, you know, anyone that understands what genocide is, that it’s defined by intent and not body count. But I guess you’d rather pretend that no one reasonable could possibly disagree.
Hamas members represent ~1% of Gazans, (20-25k.) Even if Israel had perfect aim with zero collateral damage they would have killed this many.
Got it, you’re evil.
Got it, you don’t care if your accusations are accurate as long as they are cathartic. Everyone who disagrees is evil, that’s clearly why you’re always right, because you aren’t evil, do I have that correct?
And here I thought words meant things. Turns out I’m just evil. Dang.
I call you evil because you are making apologies for a Government that kills civilians. You have decided to only listen to the words of their public relations officers when determining intent and have ignored the actions and inactions that reveal their actual intentions.
No, I just pointed out that your claim that this is genocide is inaccurate. You can say you don’t believe them, that’s fine, but unless you can establish intent or change the legal definition of genocide you’re simply wrong about this being one.
Every government kills civilians in war. Few show the restraint Israel has.
Don’t be pissed off and call me evil just because I’m unwilling to pick up a torch and join the anti-Israel angry mob that the fediverse seems to have somehow cultivated. I’ve listened to the words and seen the actions of those who oppose Israel, and I do not find them compelling. Hamas started this and has popular support. This is what they wanted. They could end it at any time by surrendering and returning the hostages.
Israel’s obvious and stated intention: safety for its people. I don’t expect this conflict will end until that has been achieved. At the very least this means deposing Hamas.