• mozz@mbin.grits.dev
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    11 months ago

    To me, the crazy thing is that 33% of the Arab world doesn’t think it was legitimate resistance.

    The October 7th attack was clearly terrorism. But to have such a big percentage of the Arab world seem to agree with that, even in such an insanely one-sided situation as the ongoing occupation of Gaza, means:

    A lot of people want peace.

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      11 months ago

      Everyone wants peace for themselves and their allies. What’s important is how many people want peace for the other guy too.

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        11 months ago

        Well, but what I’m saying is that (edit: calling it terrorism) saying it wasn’t legitimate is kind of wanting peace for the other guy too.

        I’d be surprised if 33% of Americans or Israelis thought that the invasion of Gaza was illegitimate. Maybe they would though, I honestly don’t know.

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        11 months ago

        Palestinians want to live peace with each other. Israelis are the ones that want to go full Nazi and exterminate all Palestinians because they believe they are the Ubermensch.

        The west bank being terrorized by ZioNazis is all the proof one needs.

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      11 months ago

      I think it is interesting how many people think there will ever be peace while Hamas is in charge, or that Hamas will ever let someone else be in charge.

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        11 months ago

        Nobody in power ever “lets” someone else have it instead.

        On the first part, I agree; both Likud and Hamas are hell-bent on this outcome. If only the one of them would stop giving the other money to keep them both going.

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          11 months ago

          Nobody in power ever “lets” someone else have it instead.

          Peaceful transition of power is a cornerstone of democracies

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            11 months ago

            I actually hesitated to write what I wrote for that exact reason… but I decided that there’s enough implied threat of everyone else just removing you anyway and you looking stupid and maybe going to prison that you can’t actually call it “voluntary.” Trump tried his absolute very best to simply refuse to go along with the peaceful transition of power and he still got power-transitioned out.

            I’m not necessarily disagreeing with you; I do think a lot of the theater of concession speeches and other trappings that go with peaceful transitions in countries far from Palestine is super important. But I think Trump actually did a pretty good job (so far, fingers crossed) at illustrating that it’s not really voluntary for the departing president to agree to leave.