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    10 months ago

    I’m sorry, but whose currently suffering on the Israeli side? Because Gaza is literally starving. And the Aid trucks are idling at the border with food that the IDF refuses to let through.

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        10 months ago

        Yeah I bet their friends are doing things like bringing them food to help and their jobs are giving them extra time off or something.

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      10 months ago

      The calculus changes when everything from ambulances to children could be actual, literal bombs.

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        10 months ago

        Nope. No you don’t get to go down that road. We dealt with that uncertainty in Iraq without causing a massive famine or using 2,000 pound bombs. They are no excuses for genocide, and certainly not victim blaming.

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          10 months ago

          It sounds like you’re saying if Jihadists use ambulances and children then there’s no defense. Just lay down and die.

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            10 months ago

            Sounds like you’re trying to lump every person in Gaza in with Hamas. Professional soldiers have procedures for those situations. Ones Israel isn’t using.

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              10 months ago

              I’m not.

              I’m very clearly saying that when you’re fighting a group who straps bombs to kids, you have to consider that even those appearing to be regular civilians might be a threat.

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                10 months ago

                Oh but you are. Because we’ve done this. We know how to deal with those problems without committing a genocide. The only reason to answer charges of genocide with , “but the kids might have weapons!” Is to blame the victims.

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        The calculus changes when everything from ambulances to children could be actual, literal bombs.

        That’s a really weird way to say, “I’ll kill any Palestinian that moves, even the cattle, because I can’t even bother viewing them as human beings”.

        Would it be acceptable if someone shot an Israeli ambulance, saying, “well, you never know these days, these ambulances are full of IDF ready to attack!”?

        Nope, and neither should the opposite.