• المنطقة عكف عفريت@lemmy.worldOP
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    10 months ago

    To do “self defence”, all Israel had to do was guard its borders and have some diplomatic solution that didn’t completely dehumanize Palestinians, maybe policies that listen to expert opinions on these subjects and how this is causing extremism to double. They didn’t need to invade “in self defence”.

    If I make my house bullet proof and you shoot it every day in the hopes of killing me at some point I have the right to get rid of you by some method surely?

    Funny how that works both ways.

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      10 months ago

      Alright so from your perspective it seems you expect Israel to do all the heavy lifting here. Just ignore the attacks and hope Hamas is willing to negotiate one day? Even though they make it clear they want to remove Israel

      What should the Palestinians/Hamas be doing? Continuing with their current course of action until Israel decides to do something different?

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          10 months ago

          So what exactly does that entail? Remove all troops, accept continued missile attacks and pray that Hamas eventually gets sick of it and negotiates?

          I don’t think you’re really considering the actions and goals of Hamas here. Is anything they do justified as long as they don’t have their own state away from Israel?

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              10 months ago

              I’m not spinning anything. I want to know why you expect Israel to do all the work towards peace?

              Do you expect Hamas to change nothing? Because I can’t imagine telling Israel “hey we know these guys are firing missile after missile at you but can you please stop fighting back and let them continue”

              Realistically the first move towards peace without continued conflict has to come from Hamas. Or Israel need to have removed Hamas completely, pick one

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                10 months ago

                I’m not spinning anything. I want to know why you expect Israel to do all the work towards peace?

                Please. Don’t shit me.

                Your last question:

                I don’t think you’re really considering the actions and goals of Hamas here. Is anything they do justified as long as they don’t have their own state away from Israel?


                What a nice false dichotomy, though!

                In any case, how sad them for Israel that it has successfully created the Hamas of today and tomorrow, and for years to come because of its violent approach.

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                  10 months ago

                  Based on this I’ll just assume you have nothing further to say At this point you aren’t really engaging and I think it’s fairly clear why

                  Anyway have a good one mate. Hopefully this conflict comes to and end sooner than later