I do not support the brutal actions of the IDF. But this particular story smells funny to me.
What possible motive would the Israelis have to seed evidence of their own crimes?
Videos of this held by civilians are at high risk of being leaked or hacked off phones by a technically competent opponent like Iran. That could only possibly add pressure to the US to rein in their wayward ally.
Maybe my instinct is off, that’s totally possible, but this seems like all risk and no reward. I’m waiting for more proof or corroboration before I accept this.
Funny thing about war reporting, you cant really trust any news from any side. Unless you are there you wont really know, treat all news as propaganda.
Ps fucking love all the downvotes that dont do shit :)
Funny thing about war reporting, it’s done by international news agencies and covered by multiple sides along with graphic video evidence - so you can trust a lot that is mass verified.
I disagree, I think that journalists can get accurate reporting out of war zones. With some critical reasoning and wide reading an accurate enough - if not complete - picture is possible.
Before someone comes in to say “Israel has been letting western news reporters in”, let’s clarify something.
They have been actively targeting journalists reporting the Palestinian perspective.
Western news reporters from places like CNN or BBC are provided access to the war zone through Israel, and Israel reserves the right to screen what they report on. It is heavily whitewashed.
Well when i was deployed my parents read and heared (tv, paper) things and eventually asked me about it and i was like, what?? Most of it was bull. Some where sort of correct but moslty it was horseshit or twisted.
Yeah, that seems about right. I agree that treating all news as propaganda is good advice, and there’s a certain resolution of detail that we’ll probably not be able to get right for a while if ever.
But I think it’s dangerous to dismiss the possiblity of getting to the truth at all.
There have been loads of videos of atrocities uploaded to the internet where IDF soldiers gleefully record themselves. They are supremacists, and they do not see anything wrong with their actions. Supremacy is baked into Zionism. They literally think they’re cleansing the land of vermin.
Public humiliation, yes. Dehumanization efforts, yes. Publicly deniable torture of prisoners, seems very likely. Official distribution of graphic violence, we’ve seen that.
But creating wide spread video evidence of tortured prosoners and leaving it amongst random civilians where they have no control over it? That just doesn’t seem like the same thing.
Maybe the videos will surface and I’ll be proved wrong.
They controlled the channel didn’t they? It was the IDF publishing their killings. If there was something especially incriminating they could just not publish it.
I do not support the brutal actions of the IDF. But this particular story smells funny to me.
What possible motive would the Israelis have to seed evidence of their own crimes?
Videos of this held by civilians are at high risk of being leaked or hacked off phones by a technically competent opponent like Iran. That could only possibly add pressure to the US to rein in their wayward ally.
Maybe my instinct is off, that’s totally possible, but this seems like all risk and no reward. I’m waiting for more proof or corroboration before I accept this.
Ha ha ha, haven’t been watching the non-j-post news lately?
You don’t think the IDF which dresses up in dinosaur costumes to fire mortal shells into Gaza would do this?
They believe they are fully invincible from any reprecussions from the West. And so far they have been proven right.
The Era Of War Crime Influencers is a good video on this.
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Mortal shells?
Rockets leave a big trail of fire behind them. They are usually more precise.
Mortars are like long range grenade-bullets. hence the big “gun” shooting them.
Funny thing about war reporting, you cant really trust any news from any side. Unless you are there you wont really know, treat all news as propaganda.
Ps fucking love all the downvotes that dont do shit :)
Funny thing about war reporting, it’s done by international news agencies and covered by multiple sides along with graphic video evidence - so you can trust a lot that is mass verified.
Yeah you are right. Its probably all true.
I disagree, I think that journalists can get accurate reporting out of war zones. With some critical reasoning and wide reading an accurate enough - if not complete - picture is possible.
That’s why Israel has been actively targeting journalists in the war zone.
Before someone comes in to say “Israel has been letting western news reporters in”, let’s clarify something.
They have been actively targeting journalists reporting the Palestinian perspective.
Western news reporters from places like CNN or BBC are provided access to the war zone through Israel, and Israel reserves the right to screen what they report on. It is heavily whitewashed.
Well when i was deployed my parents read and heared (tv, paper) things and eventually asked me about it and i was like, what?? Most of it was bull. Some where sort of correct but moslty it was horseshit or twisted.
Yeah, that seems about right. I agree that treating all news as propaganda is good advice, and there’s a certain resolution of detail that we’ll probably not be able to get right for a while if ever.
But I think it’s dangerous to dismiss the possiblity of getting to the truth at all.
That is all, just be wary and read everything with caution. Dont need to dismiss everything but just be wary.
There have been loads of videos of atrocities uploaded to the internet where IDF soldiers gleefully record themselves. They are supremacists, and they do not see anything wrong with their actions. Supremacy is baked into Zionism. They literally think they’re cleansing the land of vermin.
Sounds like you haven’t been paying attention to this genodide.
The IDF ran a snuff telegram channel called ‘72 Virgins – Uncensored’, where they shared pictures of gruesome torture, abuse, and deaths of Palestinians.
In decemeber they marched groups of Palestinians around in their underwear to parade them off
They share videos of them openly destroying Palestinian peoples property
They beat and torture prisoners and civilains
They are very open about showing this to the world.
Public humiliation, yes. Dehumanization efforts, yes. Publicly deniable torture of prisoners, seems very likely. Official distribution of graphic violence, we’ve seen that.
But creating wide spread video evidence of tortured prosoners and leaving it amongst random civilians where they have no control over it? That just doesn’t seem like the same thing.
Maybe the videos will surface and I’ll be proved wrong.
What control do you think they had over a telegram channel anyone could join?
They controlled the channel didn’t they? It was the IDF publishing their killings. If there was something especially incriminating they could just not publish it.
It’s just another step on the ladder. They’re testing how far they can go with the genocide without anybody relevant complaining.