• Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone
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      10 months ago

      My point is the irony of a culture who bases their entire national identity on previous victimhood and centuries of oppression is now frolicking in the blood and screams of others.

      Very, very human, and awful.

      • Mun_Walker@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        Yeah well when you hold fast to a religion that encourages mindless obedience, murder and violence, you reap what you sow. Or any other deadly fantasy.

        • SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works
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          10 months ago

          Perhaps not every religion, but every religion that has passed the historical test of getting and maintaining millions of followers through history.

            • SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works
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              10 months ago

              Contemporary example: Buddhist Inspired Genocide

              And you can also check Wikipedia:

              Buddhist scripture condemns violence in every form. Ahimsa, a term meaning “not to injure”, is a primary virtue in Buddhism. However, Buddhists have historically used scriptures to justify violence or form exceptions to commit violence for various reasons.

              There may be individuals whose personal interpretation of Buddhism leads them to avoid violence, but organized religion as a whole is a social system where a hierarchy struggles to maintain ideological control over their followers on the basis of faith, which is a magnificent tool for anyone who wants to get others to justify heinous crimes against their out-group, and is routinely used that way in all major religions.

              • zergtoshi@lemmy.world
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                10 months ago

                Thank you for the additional info.
                I think I just wanted to believe there’s at least one religion that leads to good deeds and good deeds only. You may call me naive.

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                10 months ago

                I’d love to get the long version, because from what I’ve gathered so far Buddhism doesn’t appear to be built around aggregation and (ab)use of power.
                I may be completely off though and would like to have additional information!

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                  10 months ago

                  This is what I originally wrote:

                  The Buddhist monk Pol Pot would like a word. Buddhism practised in the west vs. Southeast Asia are very different.

                  I asked a Buddhist man the method he used to kill dogs for meat. ‘You have to make them angry and scared, then you get their strength.’ So, torture them first. The usual method was drowning, after torture. That is a common sentiment.

                  I was just talking about this a few days ago with an old friend, we both worked there together years ago. His description was that Buddhists in general were slightly less Buddhist than the Pope.

                  There are devout Buddhists of course, just like there are devout Christians, or whatever. Who may be decent people, being devout is certainly no guarantee.

                  The majority of religious people are hypocritical fucks who take what they want to reinforce their worldview, oppress others, and leave the rest as irrelevant. Include Buddhists in that group, they don’t get a pass because of what Buddha said (and they don’t follow) anymore than Christians or anyone else.

                  • zergtoshi@lemmy.world
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                    10 months ago

                    Someone doesn’t like our comments. Have we kicked a hornet’s nest? lol. I’ve only been able to see Buddhism practiced in the west. I couldn’t have imagined how horrible it can be practiced elsewhere.
                    In all fairness, what they do with animals is opposed to Buddhist doctrine.
                    Then again a lot of what (fundamentalist) Christians do is opposed to Christian doctrine.
                    The common denominator seems to be: horrible people doing horrible things in the name of $placeholder.

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      10 months ago

      Me too. But the reason we do is only circumstantial. Any and all humans are capable of such actions under the right circumstances.