• Thief_of_Crows@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    Oh man I hope so, America needs to stop screwing around in other people’s business. The only Americans who benefit from wars are those who sell the bombs. If Putin decides he’s gonna be a real problem, fight him then. Otherwise we are just lighting all our money on fire (literally) for no gain.

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      9 months ago

      Well technically the US is the cause of all this, but not how you would think.

      To them defeating communism is more important than human life of regional stability. Latin-America is a perfect example, as it’s rife with sanctions and embargos, haphazardly followed by the EU as a matter of precedent for decades now.

      Juxtapose that to the cold war, McCarthyism taken to it’s extremes, a fair bit of fear mongering, allow a fascist right-wing regime to grow over the decades to become spiteful of it all and see them do the Euro imperialistic tango once more.

      In essence, the fake neo-nazis in Ukraine was a weak excuse. But add US imperialism, formaly known as US NATO imperialism, and you’ve got what can be seen as a fair point. An aggressive foreign adversary, with more than it’s shares of government overthrowals (the CIA has the world high score in sponsored coups), and you’ve got not only geo-political precedent, but also a Goliath to play David against.

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        9 months ago

        LMAO, that is exactly what I think, though I don’t think ive ever put it that well. It’s quite obvious that America is trying to expand it’s reach to include Ukraine, and that is fundamentally a big threat to Russia, seeing as America has made NATO into the “Fuck Russia” club. It’s kind of insane that westerners will rightly say the Russian version of imperialism is wrong, but have no issue with the American version, despite all of South and Central America being living proof of how destructive it is. It’s legitimately MORE harmful to overthrow a government and install a bloodthirsty dictator who ruins your economy for decades to come than it is to bomb cities and engage in traditional warfare.

        And in case anyone thinks that was all 20th century stuff, America certainly is not done doing this, they attempted to enact the typical playbook in 2018 in Venezuela (again), by declaring their puppet, Juan Guiado, the winner of an election that was won fairly by Maduro, on top of the mercenaries sent to assassinate Maduro.

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      9 months ago

      I’ve seen this movie before, but in that one, the villain had a silly mustache and walked funny. 🤔

      America didn’t bother with that one either, until Mr. Mustache’s rising-sun-buddies blew up a harbor.

      Yeah it worked out great for the world letting those goons run around unchecked for a while. I’m sure this one would sort itself if we just stay out of it. /s

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          9 months ago

          Also the “appeasement” and isolationist strategies.

          “Oo he angey, we’ll let him take Poland if he wants it so bad…then he’ll surely be satisfied and leave the rest of us alone!”

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            9 months ago

            People have written me your exact comment but subbing in about 5 different countries. Makes me think it was actually obvious what Hitler wanted, which is clearly different from what Putin wants.

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        9 months ago

        America, because we can stop lighting our money on fire in Ukraine, and fix our infrastructure instead.