• yarr@feddit.nl
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    9 months ago

    Before starting a war, ask yourself what victory would look like. It appears here that the goal is wiping Gaza entirely and anything short of that will be construed as a loss.

    • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      That’s the goal?

      They are at 1.5% of the population of Gaza and daily death tolls have fallen month after month. If that’s the goal shouldn’t the killing apparatus become more effective and not 20% less so each month?

      Hmm, perhaps your reasoning is flawed.

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        9 months ago

        Your argument is that there are so many dead that the IDF is killing people more slowly…

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        9 months ago

        They’ve forced most of the population to Rafah on the southern border and are preparing an assault on the city while Egypt is preparing a walled camp just across the border to contain refugees. Sounds like they’re well on track.

        • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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          9 months ago

          Yeah and Hamas leadership continues to use most of Gaza as a human shield. Hamas should have stayed in the north and met their fate, they’re cowards, hiring behind women and kids, but they traveled with the refugees.

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        9 months ago

        Yeah remember how when Hitler first shoved all the jews into concentration camps

        Then he let them suffer and die in those camps for a while

        Then he made dedicated death camps to kill them all

        So I guess we should wait until the death toll reaches at least 25% before we start to do anything just like how the allies definitely waited for Hitler to make death camps before fighting with his army.

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            9 months ago

            Then explain why excessive civilian casualties are acceptable lmao

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                9 months ago

                Lawfare is a word Israel likes to use when Palestinians appeal to international law.

                When we do it, it’s lawfare. When Israel genocides Gaza, it’s just defending itself. And hell has frozen over btw

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                9 months ago

                It’s called Israeli propaganda that has no independent verification and is used by Israel to justify intentionally targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure.

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                    9 months ago

                    You got me, empathy makes me anti-Genocide. Funny that you don’t see human rights organizations and independent news outlets as credible despite their reports being verifiable. Meanwhile, you promote IDF rhetoric used to justify ethnic cleansing, despite their verifiable track record of falsified information. You’ve made Islamophobic comments, which come from fear and hate; emotions IDF propaganda exploits.

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        9 months ago

        They are at 1.5% of the population of Gaza and daily death tolls have fallen month after month. If that’s the goal shouldn’t the killing apparatus become more effective and not 20% less so each month?

        If Israel was stupid then yeah they’d ramp up the killing after the ICJ ruled that it was a plausible case of genocide. If they were not stupid maybe they would slow down.

        So the question is: do you think Israel is stupid?

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        9 months ago

        They are at 1.5% of the population of Gaza and daily death tolls have fallen month after month. If that’s the goal shouldn’t the killing apparatus become more effective and not 20% less so each month?

        I’m sorry not enough people are getting killed efficiently enough for you. What do you think ‘Total Victory’ means for Israel here?