Aside from a handful of crazies, most people fully understand the health implications of being overweight, even (perhaps especially) overweight people. The reason some people are fat is definitely not because they’re not aware of that, and being a dick to fat people isn’t going to make them less fat.
So you wanting to see people treated as less than human for something that is very unlikely to affect you in any way at all says much more about you than it does them.
I don’t think op is treating them less than human. Fat acceptance is downright harmful to the society and being against fat acceptance is not treating them like lesser people. It’s a medical condition. You wouldn’t agree to, say, depression acceptance, will you? They should be treated not be celebrated.
I’m a bit overweight myself and I hate the word fat acceptance. It sends the wrong message of ‘eat a truckload of food you’re still fine’.
Actually yes, depression acceptace (and mental health acceptance in general) is part of the process to helping people be happy and healthy. As someone with depression (who is also fat) accepting myself and finding communities where i am accepted as i am and encouraged to be my own personal form of healthy is good for me.
Shaming someone for being depressed isnt going to suddenly make their depression go away. Shaming someone for being fat isnt going to suddenly make them thin. Judinging someone as a person for medical conditions that are often a complex result of genetics, environment, and culture is not helpful.
Accepting, loving, and supporting people is what helps.
I fully support accepting people in need. I don’t support accepting the condition itself. Fat acceptance has been doing that. Being fat is being in suffer. Fat acceptance is just fueling the denial. I do not endorse any type of body shaming. That’s totally different from criticizing fat acceptance.
Perfectly stated. There is a big difference between shaming someone that is significantly overweight vs. coming out and saying that it doesn’t affect your health. The few people I know that are in the obese category will outright tell you that they don’t want to be overweight. But they struggle with it just like someone sincerely wanting to stop smoking.
Glad you brought up depression, yeah I want people to acknowledge that I have bouts of depression, but I don’t want people to accept it, I want them to help me and others who have depression.
Same view about fat people.
I don’t want friends dying because of a treatable condition. Especially when the condition will take them slow.
I mean the article isn’t about, nor does it mention fat acceptance. I didn’t mention fat acceptance. Only OP did. I don’t think anyone apart from him and perhaps you thinks anyone is celebrating people being overweight. Maybe some people do that but I’m pretty sure most people think of them as (and I’ve already called them) “crazies”. This article certainly isn’t doing that - as far as I can tell it’s more about the bmi scale being a bit useless.
The only point I’m making is it seems like OP just wants to hate on fat people (and if that isn’t dehumanising idk what is), my point is just that doesn’t solve anything, and you seem to agree with that much. Nobody’s talking about “fat acceptance” except you two.
Aside from a handful of crazies, most people fully understand the health implications of being overweight, even (perhaps especially) overweight people. The reason some people are fat is definitely not because they’re not aware of that, and being a dick to fat people isn’t going to make them less fat.
So you wanting to see people treated as less than human for something that is very unlikely to affect you in any way at all says much more about you than it does them.
I don’t think op is treating them less than human. Fat acceptance is downright harmful to the society and being against fat acceptance is not treating them like lesser people. It’s a medical condition. You wouldn’t agree to, say, depression acceptance, will you? They should be treated not be celebrated.
I’m a bit overweight myself and I hate the word fat acceptance. It sends the wrong message of ‘eat a truckload of food you’re still fine’.
Actually yes, depression acceptace (and mental health acceptance in general) is part of the process to helping people be happy and healthy. As someone with depression (who is also fat) accepting myself and finding communities where i am accepted as i am and encouraged to be my own personal form of healthy is good for me.
Shaming someone for being depressed isnt going to suddenly make their depression go away. Shaming someone for being fat isnt going to suddenly make them thin. Judinging someone as a person for medical conditions that are often a complex result of genetics, environment, and culture is not helpful.
Accepting, loving, and supporting people is what helps.
I fully support accepting people in need. I don’t support accepting the condition itself. Fat acceptance has been doing that. Being fat is being in suffer. Fat acceptance is just fueling the denial. I do not endorse any type of body shaming. That’s totally different from criticizing fat acceptance.
Perfectly stated. There is a big difference between shaming someone that is significantly overweight vs. coming out and saying that it doesn’t affect your health. The few people I know that are in the obese category will outright tell you that they don’t want to be overweight. But they struggle with it just like someone sincerely wanting to stop smoking.
Glad you brought up depression, yeah I want people to acknowledge that I have bouts of depression, but I don’t want people to accept it, I want them to help me and others who have depression.
Same view about fat people.
I don’t want friends dying because of a treatable condition. Especially when the condition will take them slow.
I mean the article isn’t about, nor does it mention fat acceptance. I didn’t mention fat acceptance. Only OP did. I don’t think anyone apart from him and perhaps you thinks anyone is celebrating people being overweight. Maybe some people do that but I’m pretty sure most people think of them as (and I’ve already called them) “crazies”. This article certainly isn’t doing that - as far as I can tell it’s more about the bmi scale being a bit useless.
The only point I’m making is it seems like OP just wants to hate on fat people (and if that isn’t dehumanising idk what is), my point is just that doesn’t solve anything, and you seem to agree with that much. Nobody’s talking about “fat acceptance” except you two.
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